.40 cal question - Glock? (Vanity)

11/28/08 | Self

[scottdeus12]

“... new Kimbers, or a Kimber Crimson with the laser built in.”

How much do these cost? I have seen one, and they are quite nice.....

[Ironfocus]

I can second all the suggestions for the Springfield XD in .40 S&W. I have owned several handguns and it shoots reliably and easily compared to most, plus it is reasonably easy to conceal. It can also be converted to shoot 9mm if you want cheaper practice rounds.

[txroadkill]

Personally (I own both) I think that the only real bad press the Taurus gets is from Glock owners who want to feel better about how much they paid for their Glocks.

The PT140 PRO is an awesome gun and perfect for concealed carry. The best part is the Lifetime warranty it comes with, you can intentionally melt it down and then mail it back to Taurus and they will send you back a brand new one, no questions asked.

[frog in a pot]

Quite a few of the LEO’s I talk to prefer the Glock in .45 cal and advise against the .40 cal.

My son just bought a Glock 21 SF .45 and it shoots like a dream for me at rapid fire - although I fire tighter aimed groups with my Springfield PX9109L.

Having fired the Glock, I urge you (along with several other posters on this thread) to look at the Springfield XD.

[2ndDivisionVet]

If price is an object, this is the Hi Point .40 Smith & Wesson 4-1/2" at $146.21 with a LIFETIME transferable warranty. www.hi-pointfirearms.com

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I've owned a Mod 22 Glock in .40 S&W. The first range visit saw the 5th or 6th round jam tighter than a drum and I could not remove it no matter what tool I used.
The St. Paul gunsmith tuned this baby up, relieved just a touch of metal around the eject port and while he was at it, reduced the trigger pull from an itchy 8 pounds to around 4. Trijicon night sights were added at the same time.
In 50 boxes of shells since, not a single problem.

[Frantzie]

Man lots of good testamonials for Springfield XD. I was very high on adding one of those. Second choices might be the newish Ruger 9 mm carry (SR9?), newish Beretta 9 mm and the FN 9mm.

How is the XD for accuraccy?

I have an old Ruger P85 which is reliable as anying and fairly accurate - so so. Glocks were okay but not that accurate. CZ and SIGs are like freaking target pistols. Beretta FS 92 also is a target pistol but a bit big.

[phalynx]

Glock 23, great sized gun. Great for carry. I am very pleased with mine. Don’t let anyone fool you about “kabooms”. This myth has been circulated for years. Nothing related to Glocks, all guns will fail in the circumstances they suggest it happened.

Get the Glock, practice, and smile.

[Eagle Eye]

I have nothing bad to say about Glocks but will probably never own another. Had a .40. Sold it. Doesn’t fit or feel right in my hand.

Now I still have a bunch of .40 ammo...oh well.

IMO, if it don’t feel right in my hand I don’t want it.

[jospehm20]

It is not a myth. Glock chambers are not fully supported. That is why Glock recommends only using factory new ammo in their guns, no reloads or remanufactured ammo.

[chris37]

Springfield Armory XD 40 is an excellent gun. Almost no recoil, field strips in seconds, easy to conceal, and the gun and its bullets are very affordable. I cannot speak highly enough about this weapon.

With regard to Taurus, I own Taurus Tracker .44 magnum, and I love it. This is one badass weapon. Taurus is the only gun company with a lifetime warranty on all of its weapons. I have never fired a Taurus semi-auto pistol, but I would say that its revolvers are not only better than Smith & Wesson, they are also quite a bit cheaper. I would imagine that the only people pooping on Taurus guns are the sales reps from other gun companies.

[afasouthernbelle]

Hi! This is Proud-to-be-an-American, currently at home for the holidays, so I am posting from my mom's/dad's Freeper Name...

If you are looking for an excellent .40 cal handgun for concealed carry, take a look at the Taurus Millennium .40 cal. I just recently purchased the .45 cal edition, and I love it! It was a hard choice between the .40 and the .45, but I am just partial to the .45 myself... It is light, low profile and has excellent accuracy at the range... I recently looked into getting the .40 cal also... It is reasonable too... This past weekend, I saw it for $325 at a local gun show...

Good luck!!

Proud_to_be_an_American

[kayakbob223]

no, one for home and one for carry.
Bob

[Pistolshot]

Both Glocks are nice guns. However their chambers DO NOT fully support the .40 cartridge, which can be an issue.

This is correct and not a 'myth'. A number of police agencies, including the New Mexico State Police, Bernalillo County Sherriffs along with the Georgia State Police and a host of others, are switching to the S&W MP. The previous experiences with KBi is due largely to case failure and overpressure.

The Glock does not fully support the entire case in either the 40, 10mm or the 45. In the case of the 40, this was to facilitate reliability in chambering, however, this left part of the case open to overpressure.
The argument on KBI comes from some blaming the gun for the failure, while Glock blames the ammo for it.

Since bullet seating is most important for the cartridge, and the ammo makers are not 'perfect' all the time, I believe there is a combination of both at fault.
Bullet seating on average is excellent, but there is that minor, albeit dangerous, occurence of a bullet seated too far or too 'loose' and can deep seat in the case as it hits the feeramp. This will cause a dangerous overpressure situation and KBi chance. This issue, combined with the steep feed ramp necessary for the 40+ cartridges in the Glock frames to feed reliably, are causing issues with KBi's.

The chances are greater in some of the older Glocks than the newer ones.

The Springfield XD is fully supported, however, they do not have the 'use and abuse' history that Glock has.

[Eagle Eye]

Just got rid of my Milleneum 9mm. Liked the model but got mine before they produced other calibers.

I’m partial to .45 but also leaning more towards revolvers right now.

But one thing is that I’m just not good enough reloader to reload .40 and 9mm. .45 is better for me.

[afasouthernbelle]

Oh, yeah... and the Sig Sauer P220 is another winner!! The Sig and the Taurus are my two carry sidearms... you can’t go wrong... Many people will not recommend Taurus because of the bad press it gets from Glock owners, but as an owner of both, I like the weight, grip, kick, and accuracy of the Taurus just as much as the Glock... I just didn’t have to pay as much for it! :) Also, I personally like my Millennium just as much as my Sig... They are both very reliable firearms... So, don’t let anyone sway your opinion before you have to opportunity to decide for yourself if Taurus is for you... :)

[afasouthernbelle]

Eagle Eye - you're a reloader? Awesome!! I just started getting into it, and I love it... What do you think of the Dillon Reloaders? .45 has been my favorite since I was big enough to handle the kick, and I don't think that will ever change... but reloading has saved me a bunch.... .45 ammo is so freakin expensive sometimes.... any pointers?
-PTBAA

[NoRedTape]

Good overview here at the link below:

Glock or Ruger should be considered, without a doubt. But take a look at the Smith & Wesson's, too!

One Overview is here:

[trtdenver]

I have the Sig P229. Great piece, but hard to conceal. Nothing better than the trust 12 guage for home defense.

[edpc]

I would also recommend the Springfield XD line, as others here have done. I have fired the 9mm and .45 cal XDs and both grouped very well. Pricing on them is reasonable, as well. Of the guns I own, my personal favorite is the Glock 21. As it's the one I've owned longest, I'm very comfortable and familiar with how it performs. The only downside to it is its chunkiness.

I have a Kimber Ultra Carry for warmer times of the year when thinner clothing won't totally conceal the Glock. The Kimber is a bit pricey for most people, but it's a great firearm. The best thing you can do, IMO, is go to a range where you can rent the types of guns you are looking at purchasing. Most of them will be in conditions of obvious use, so you can get an accurate idea of the weapon's performance after significant wear.