Posted on 11/22/2008 12:40:13 PM PST by Perdogg
-JFK Assassination Special- Lamar Waldron Saint John Hunt 6-10pm PT: Art Bell Somewhere in Time: 3/1/01 Burt Kearns -Reality TV- In our 6th annual JFK Assassination Special, a panel of experts including JFK Historian Lamar Waldron, and E. Howard Hunt's son, Saint John Hunt will share startling new evidence as we close in on finding out who really murdered the late president.
IMO Oswald was duped by someone connected to Brigada Asalto 2506. It could have been actual members, their families or their CIA advisors that wanted payback for Kennedy’s cowardliness during the Bay of Pigs invasion. Having a Communist Cuban sympathizer do the shooting had to be the sweetest revenge possible.
I recall the day and the days following well.
I was glued to the TV much to the consternation of my parents.
I was immediately convinced that Oswald did NOT act alone, if he was guilty at all. I still am.
I think plenty of evidence has leaked out about it all.
The latest noise about Oswald acting alone due to blood spatter evidence is not the least bit convincing to me. Sounds like some powers that be felt too much truth had leaked out and was trying to stem the tide.
The shot was made from the 6th floor of a building at a distance of about 200 feet at a moving target with one of the world crappiest bolt action rifles.
I would find that shot hard even with an excellent bolt action rifle with a perfect scope setup.
The fact that Kennedy's head moved back and to the left is very good proof that the shot had to have come from the front and right. Which indicates the grassy knoll area.
Oswald was qualified by the United States Marine Corps as sharpshooter.
In any case the fact remains that the killing shot came from the front. And that to duplicate his shooting job would take a rifleman with world class precision.
Think about it. Three shots were fired in about 6 seconds at a target the size of a human head. With a really bad bolt action rifle. With two hits, as far as we know. The killing head shot was fired from the front and at a low angle. Kennedy's head moved back and to the left. Now way Oswald did it. No way.
Three shots with a bolt action rifle in six seconds is nothing:
Shot one —> 3 seconds —> shot two —> 3 seconds —> shot three
Anyone, much less a former Marine marksman, with some practice can do it.
Did Oswald have “lucky” shot that hit Kennedy in the back of the head? Possibly. But 200 feet isn’t that far with a scope.
Colonel Mustard. In the Library. With the candle stick.
> Colonel Mustard. In the Library. With the candle stick.
(grin!) It was the Freemasons! The Freemasons shot JFK!
No you aren't because there is no such thing. You also have no idea how the killing occured so you are falsifying what happened.
Three shots in 8.3 seconds. The first shot starts the clock.
The limo was traveling in a straight line away from the corner of the building where Oswald set up.
44 yards and 88 yards.
He totally missed on the first shot.
Frame 312 to frame 313 show a Kennedy's head traveling forward on impact about two inches. Again, forward.
Kennedy's head was at a right angle to the grassy knoll.
To the front of the limo were two police officers and more than half a dozen railroad workers.
The Zapruder film shows small hole in, large hole out. Exactly, no entrance hole is actually shown.
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You’re about 40 years behind in your theories. It didn’t take world class precision, he had a slow moving target and a perch set up to stabalize his rifle and a 4x scope which made it more like a 22 yard shot, not an 88 yard shot.
http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=jfk&emb=0#q=jfk&emb=0&start=20
On the left, Unsolved History 1hr 28 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szGciJo0iPo
Quickie, new discovery channel test re-creating the final shot.
No it was a bunch of gay republicans.
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LOL, EXACTLY! According to Jim Garrison that is, he said the JFK murder was a “homosexual thrill kill” by David Ferrie who was insanely jealous that Kennedy was everything he was not and gay comrades Clay Shaw, Oswald “a switch hitter who couldn’t satisfy his wife” and Ruby, who’s gay code name was “Pinkie”. I kid you not, this is what Garrison said. Also in “The Men Who Killed Kennedy” (amazing assortment of lies which can be found on google video) Garrison said Oswald was most likely an “American Hero”.
Garrison was a raving lunatic. One his investigators who resigned during the madness described it as a circus and suggested that the real movie that should be made was about what a sham Garrison’s investigation was.
You have your opinion and I have mine. No way Oswald did this with a crappy rifle no way.
Look, don't cite some re-demonstration using a winchester model 70 at a stationary target. My point is Oswald could not have done that shooting job with the rifle he had. The manlicher-Carcano rifle was a crappy rifle. I could do it with a model 70 or a remington model 700 class rifle on a stationary target as shown in the video. I would select a high velocity round like a 243 winchester or perhaps a 223.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. It was Oswald’s personal rifle and he practiced with it a lot, he even spent long periods of time dry-firing the rifle according to his wife. Most all real shooters who have been to Dealey Plaza conclude it wasn’t very hard at all, if Oswald missed his last shot, Kennedy would have lived most likely.
All modern forensics, ballistics and computer re-creations have concluded the shots originated from Oswald’s snipers nest, many long time conspiracy theorists have come around to this simple fact.
Explain this, 2 men were directly UNDER Oswald on the fifth floor and testified to a BOOM, click, click, BOOM, and a final click, click BOOM and could even hear the shells hitting the floor (the floor was being repaired and was temporarily plywood).
These two men testified to what they HEARD, and this information came out BEFORE THEY FOUND THE RIFLE!! What bad luck for Oswald that 2 employees testified to the exact action of Oswald’s rifle before it was even found, what are the odds??
You missed the point of the re-demonstrations (there were various ones) showing that the blood and brain matter proves the shot came from behind.
All of the evidence points to Oswald, once you take the time to read the books and watch the various documentaries and re-creations, no reasonable person can conclude it was anyone but Oswald.
All of your arguments point to someone with little knowledge of the crime, that’s no crime, it’s time you look at things other than conspiracy theories and stop repeating arguments that have been debunked many years ago.
You can believe the lone gunman story if you want. And I am not saying that Lee Harvey Oswald did not have a hand in it.
Even the U.S Government says it was most likely a conspiracy.
You make quotes that have no citations and say this is evidence. I say that given the firearm used by oswald and the ammo available at the time, he could not have done the shooting job he did with the skills he had.
The Zapruder film clearly shows the presidents head moving back and to the left and this indicates a shot from the right and the front.
It might be that Oswald might have gotten a hit. But the killing shot came from the front.
I have seen the film and the laws of physics don’t lie.
The sheeple that are the American people like to believe that the JFK assassination was the work of a lone gunman. Because to believe otherwise would mean that a coup de etat had taken place.
Kings are killed my freind kings are killed.
But you have your opinion and I have mine.
44 yards and 88 yards??? You have to be kidding me. Just because you can’t do it doesn’t mean someone else can’t do it. Heck, a Boy Scout troop could do it with .22 bolt actions. I can do it with a pistol. Anyone’s pistol.
Go to YouTube. There’s guys there that prove you wrong.
Buzz off...
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