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To: USAFJeeper
If it's for your wife, I don't know if the Mossberg 500 or 590 would be a good idea, was told by salesman that the butt end should be braced against a wall, not very feasible in most situations. If you shoulder brace it, the recoil is so bad it could leave a bruise or knock you down, something you wouldn't want to happen in a bad situation. A hefty man or very strong woman might be able to handle the thing, plus it's very long. Instead someone recommended a Maverick Arms 12 gauge pump.

Give your friends and relatives an NRA membership for Christmas. That's what I may do for the ones of mine that aren't anti-gun :-). I really don't care for guns and haven't decided yet.

13 posted on 11/18/2008 10:16:08 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska

It’s true that a 12-gauge has quite a recoil, which is why many recommend a 20-gauge. As I wrote above though, even a 20 gauge is not a light kicking gun. Anyone who is going to use any gun for self defense should become proficient with the weapon and periodically practice to maintain competence.

Having said all that, I think recoil is often over-stated. Even smaller shooters (being one myself) can learn to handle the recoil on these guns with a little practice. My 80 pound nephew fires his 20 gauge for a solid hour like it’s nothing. If he can do it, so can a full-grown woman.


15 posted on 11/18/2008 10:24:49 PM PST by mbs6
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To: Aliska; USAFJeeper
Instead someone recommended a Maverick Arms 12 gauge pump.

A Maverick is a Mossberg 500 clone. It costs a little less and if it's going to spend a lot of time at home and little time at the range may be a better choice but there's no difference in recoil.

I shoot 12 guage 23/4 double aught loads from my Mossberg 500 and it's not something that is going to knock someone down. I have an Asian friend who is 5' 1" and weighs about 100 pounds (maybe). He shoots a Mossberg 590 and loves it. If recoil is really an issue maybe consider a 20 gauge.

The only current production shotgun I'd be concerned about recoil with would be something like a double barrel Stoeger Coach. Mine seems to weigh just slightly more than two shotgun shells and the action is a little looser than I'd like. When I fire it there is a definite bump. After about 20 rounds there's no bruise but my shoulder is sore the next morning. Shoots a nice open pattern though and will put 30 x 53 grain, .33 inch diameter projectiles on a target at 1250 fps quicker than anything else I own.

20 posted on 11/18/2008 10:48:20 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: Aliska

You just gave me a brilliant idea of what to get my liberal inlaws! NRA memberships!


26 posted on 11/18/2008 11:13:55 PM PST by proudtobeanamerican1 (God Bless Sarah, John, their families and the conservative voters)
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To: Aliska
If you shoulder brace it, the recoil is so bad it could leave a bruise or knock you down, something you wouldn't want to happen in a bad situation.

recoil from a 500? i'm 5'9", weigh about 115#, and i shoot 3 1/2" turkey loads without problem. if you're bruising with regular loads, you're doing it wrong.
but if you really need recoil reduction, look at the benelli nova series, and get the optional mercury recoil reducer.
33 posted on 11/19/2008 6:50:57 AM PST by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: Aliska; USAFJeeper
I have a Mossberg 500 that I've had for a number of years. I only weighed around 125 back when I bought it, and I have fired it from the hip several times without bracing it, even with high brass loads. I also used to shoot trap (what I originally bought the gun for) and would run 50 to 100 rounds through it in an afternoon. It's all about how you control the gun. If you don't hold it tight against the shoulder, it will hurt. Learned that as a teenager with Dad's JC Higggins 12 gauge.

As for using a shotgun inside, length may be a problem. Standard barrel is 28 inches long, somewhat hard to maneuver in the house. Mossberg does make an 18 1/2 inch barrel that is just longer than the magazine.

Personally, I would like to get the Taurus “Judge.” It is a revolver that fires .45 caliber rounds and .410 shotgun shells. Check out this video:

http://www.taurususa.com/video/taurus-theJudge-video.cfm

35 posted on 11/19/2008 7:16:30 AM PST by fredhead (If Teddy drove a VW, he would have become President........VW's float.)
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To: Aliska

A 12 GA is a 12 GA. Make and model for a pump isn’t going to affect recoil. That’s a function of the shells you use. 2-3/4, 3”, magnum; Light loads vs. heavy etc. Semi-Auto’s will reduce recoil somewhat over a pump, as some of that energy is used to cycle the bolt.


36 posted on 11/19/2008 7:34:10 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Aliska

Someone already said it, but I too thought to give my libtard friends a membership!


52 posted on 11/19/2008 2:18:27 PM PST by USAFJeeper
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