Posted on 11/15/2008 8:48:13 AM PST by Amityschild
On one of these threads a few days ago (yes, real specific!!) there was a link to some tape of the Kenyan grandmother (apparently a step grandmother or something) in an interview, in which IIRC she was speaking through an interpretor. She was apparently being asked about Hussein’s birth and she again apparently replied that she was present at his birth in Kenya. The tape was being discussed, a couple of freepers had clicked the link (whatever it was) and had listened - I think someone mentioned listening several times because it was hard to understand.
I do remember reading this, sometime in the last week or so, after the election. Time flies when you’re having fun. /sarc
“If the law of a State recognises that its nationality may be lost as the result of adoption,...”
Notice the word “If”. United States law does not recognize that American citizenship may be lost as the result of adoption.
Appealing to international law is a fast way to perdition. Stop it.
“Notice the word “If”. United States law does not recognize that American citizenship may be lost as the result of adoption.”
That is true, at least not permanently. Once you attain 18 years of age, the law affords that former citizen the right to go before the appropriate State Dept. official and swear an oath of allegiance to the US. At that time you become newly naturalized, and forever lose natural born status.
“If airline records still exist...”
Will look for a post some 30+ days ago that provided info based on “reliable” records, BOAC, etc. Had mom’s itinerary laid out, but do not recall how well it was supported.
I am confident, however, it is possible to check mom’s movements via US POE recordings. Also expect a Sandy Burglar operation was launched some time ago.
O’s relationship with known CPUSA members and sponsors, beginning with his high chair days, likely earned him and mom the attention of LEO and intel branches. One would think some of those records were beyond the reach of ordinary folks.
Did you make it to the PCT (Pearl City Tavern)? The monkeys were better than the local TV stations.
We would also like to see evidence of Hussein ever having made such an oath of allegiance.
United States law does not recognize that American citizenship may be lost as the result of adoption. There is nothing to regain, the minor always remains an American citizen, there is no reason to go through naturalization.
Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution says Congress shall define naturalization laws. Part of defining naturalization would be defining natural born. And among other things, Section 1401 of Title 8 of the U.S. code says that a person born in the U.S. and subject to the jurisdiction there of. If Obama's mother is a U.S. citizen then his father could be Martian and he would still be a natural born U.S. citizen if he was born in Hawaii.
This 'anchor baby' business is a lie.
Because you say so? Thanks for clearing that up for us.
The FF would have considered him not eligible- he had dual loyalties/nationalties at his birth until whenever it supposedly expired. EVEN if he was born in HI.
ow many Presidents have been citizens of two nations?
They said they had the orginal copy of the birth certificate. How could they have the original if they didn't issue it?
Within a day or two of one of the Berg actions/filings. I remember it well. Someone mentioned it here, and there it was. Added with no fanfare, almost as if it was to shut-down one of Berg’s avenues.
Lucky for us he’s a self-described scholar of Constitutional Law. Unfortunately, he was talking about the Soviet Constitution...
Thanks LucyT.
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," - Dr. Chiyomi Fukino, Director, Hawaii Department of Health.
Sure seems like a definitive statement to me.
By confirming the existence of a original copy of Obama's birth certificate. They are confirming that the was born there. That makes him a natural born U.S. citizen.
on record in accordance with state policies and procedures... THAT seems like hedging to me.
The governor of Hawaii for the last 6 years has been Linda Lingle. A Republican.
This is the form letter that Hawaii sent out that doesn't really state anything
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record. “Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures. “No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.” ###
That was issued where? That, by itself, does not prove that BHO was born in Hawaii.
I still have faith in our system, there are 500+ in Washington, 50 Governors including Sarah, and senior office holders who have taken oaths. If Havard is sitting on information, I’m sure they’re waiting for someone else to jump first. If there is an issue, it will be found.
I posted earlier that I don’t believe this will peak until after the Electors speak on 15 Dec. They would be free to change their votes before then and there’s too much risk of an unknown outcome. Whoever is holding the goods will certainly wait until the States finish up.
Could be a wild ride after Dec 15. Buy Jan 09 puts on the S&P before the 15th.
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