Posted on 11/15/2008 8:48:13 AM PST by Amityschild
Prove he wasn't and the same thing happens.
What in the heck are you talking about? That is the title from the link.
Everyone is missing the most important point. And that is what Sharia law says about this matter.
“But proof of natural born citizenship when grave doubts have been legitimately raised must be insisted on...”
Plan to hand deliver this letter Monday and consult with the rep at my senator’s local office. Will invite family members in other states to do likewise. Looking for ideas on how to expand this concept among Republicans in each state.
Dear Senator _________:
Many American voters believe the United States may be the victim of an on-going, massive fraud of historical proportion.
Specifically, President-Elect Obama by his actions alleges he is a natural born citizen. Amazingly, even when challenged in court, he has not provided evidence of that fact.
If Obama is not a natural born citizen, merely asking him to provide evidence of his place of birth will be ineffective. He can be expected to present a level of evidence that simply shifts the burden of proof. In this regard, he may be sworn into office before such evidence can be thoroughly examined and disproved.
Rather, we ask you to request the Republican Party to research the statutes and case law concerning the issue, to take the statements of government officials that have knowledge of relevant facts, to conduct an investigation of government records and to obtain and examine all evidence wherever it may be lawfully obtained. This would include, but not be limited to evidence of Obamas place of birth, his mothers passport stampings, any adult citizenship in foreign countries, passport applications, applications to appear as an attorney before state and federal bars, any communications with the Selective Service Board as well as any other declarations or statements made to any state or federal agency.
If warranted by the results of such investigation, we ask that you consult and coordinate with other Republicans as to the form of any challenge prior to January 6, 2009 deemed appropriate. If no pre-January 6 action is thought appropriate, we ask that you join in a plan with other Republican Senators and Representatives to present an objection to Obama’s election during the January 6 Joint Session of Congress..
Some American voters will be disappointed if Obama is constitutionally disqualified and there may be unrest. Such unrest will be the lesser of the potential evils.
We realize the enormity of such an undertaking; however, defending the Constitution is the duty of each American. It is especially the duty of those who serve in uniform and those who serve as our elected politicians.
Thank you for your work.
1. His mother was 16 and in Kenya already.
2. That was his adoptive birth certificate.
3. Ok, you get one point.
4.They said they had a record of birth, not a U.S. birth certificate. He could have been born on the moon, and they'd still have the same paperwork.
All he has to do is show his bonafide certificate. McCain did. Why can't he? Is that too much to ask? It's a piece of cake.
It's been discussed for months.
Again, what is the difference between a “record of birth” and a “birth certificate”? Why would a state have a record of birth for someone not born in that state?
Have you, or anyone else around here, heard a recording of the grandmother say that? Seen a transcript of her story? Have any details on the when and where she related this story? Have any details, or any proof whatosever, that she actually said what you claim she said? Anything at all?
Lets say I was an illegal immigrant who gave birth on my way to the American border. I carried the baby into the hospital and asked for a birth certificate. Because there is no record of the birth, I'd get a birth record - not a certificate. The hospital cannot automatically hand out U.S. birth certificates to anyone who just walks in with a baby.
In the immortal words of Mick Jagger, you can't always get what you want.
Toast
How do you know? Have you seen his birth certificate? How? The governor of Hawaii has it in lock up.
He can claim Duel natioanality ,The UK recognizes that, US does not. But did he Ever claim it ? I dont think so.
‘Slainte ‘
How do we know he didn’t have a diplomatic passport?
Obama Senoir was not some goat herder sent here to study animal husbandry, he was a rising start in Kenya’s power elite and remained so until his party fell out of favor and his fortunes with it.
I don’t have to remind anyone here how diplomatic visas are regularly abused by people from Africa and the Middle East to cover the asses of their students here against things as minor as parking tickets all the way up to serious crimes including murder. Those consular rights are routinely used to flaunt our laws and used as protection against them.
When I was a young Marine I saw Iranian students here with such visas and they could do no wrong.
Student Visas are normally given to those this country brings in, where as diplomatic visas are given to those their own country sends here, there is a huge difference between each.
And of course you can quote the article of the Constitution that supports this?
Lets say I was an illegal immigrant who gave birth on my way to the American border. I carried the baby into the hospital and asked for a birth certificate. Because there is no record of the birth, I'd get a birth record - not a certificate. The hospital cannot automatically hand out U.S. birth certificates to anyone who just walks in with a baby.
Ok, that's an interesting scenario, but I don't understand why any hospital would give such a person anything that the state would also have a copy of.
Put another way, why would a state have a record of a birth that didn't occur in that state? IOW, it seems you are claiming that states are in the habit of collecting someone's medical records. IOW, the "record of birth" that the state of Hawaii has is a medical record of Obama's mother. But it's not a "birth certificate".
Do (or did they back then) states collect medical records of mothers that recently gave birth, but didn't give birth in the state?
Everyone needs a hobby.
Where?
Don’t be stupid — that has no bearing on U.S. citizenship.
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