Posted on 11/14/2008 10:58:59 AM PST by MindBender26
I watch Military Channel nearly exclusively, and they often use the same footage for different programs, even when the programs are not about the same battle. I vote that it was a stock footage like another freeper said, and they thought no one would notice?
Guess you think the real 'Moon Landings' were filmed in Death Valley, too.
The 77th was real and they were brave men who fought and died to defeat the Nazis even if their so called Soviet allies were just as bad in the long run.
I’m re-reading it now. It is very good. Nice map too.
When the Volga froze over the 6th was really screwed.
That’s not a real outfit. It’s a group that flies the flight sim Il-2: Forgotten Battles—strictly fictional.
}:-)4
The American Army wanted to station observers with the Russian Army to learn German tactics and equipment, but Stalin firmly he refused. He also refused to support shuttle bombing of Germany by British or American air crews flying out of Britian and landing in Russia and then again on the return trip, much less stationing American Air Forces in Russia, as the American wanted.
Stalin feared that Russians would become friendly with Americans, upsetting the negative view of Americans he and the party were carefully cultivating.
This seems to occur frequently. In Pearl Harbor, a pilot flies around the tall mountains of Long Island--or, at least, that's where the scene is set--before departing New York City from a train station that looks suspiciously like Union Station in Los Angeles. And in The Battle of the Bulge (1966), the Germans were using American tanks made after World War II.
The real 4th Fighter Group did a shuttle mission (from England through Germany, landing in Russia) in June 1944 ... I can’t confirm that flag was posted while the 4th FG was ‘visiting’ but it’s possible.
(ref. http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/resource/tidbits.html)
That would be my guess.
I've seen 231,876,900,546,097 WW 2 documentaries and have often seen one piece of footage used to recreate several battles on several fronts.
Reciprocity: There was an old Soviet flag in the crowd celebrating Obama’s election in front of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Nov. 4 (really)
It's a good thing Ike ordered those guys 'out of Dodge' at the end, or they would have ended up in one of Stalin's Gulags (or worse) like other Allied GIs who fell into Soviet hands.
I know what you mean about stock footage. There was a promo for a show on American Fighter Aces, and two of the pilots shown were wearing Sov flight helmets. (the kind with the three air vent holes in the front crown.)
But these were very definately Yak-3s or Yak-9s operating off the snow.
All uniforms were also WWII Sov.
I love the war movies where everyone is so clean, hair combed and well shaved.
What experience do any of you have with Olympic Arms AR-15 copy? Any ideas out there who would like to comment? How do they compare with AR or Colt? Thanks in advance people!
Have you gone to that webpage and looked at it, wiseacre?
Here is a cut and paste of part of this page http://www.777avg.com/roe/
Q. What voice communication software does the squadron use and where can I find the connection information?
A. We use Team Speak as our main voice communication utility. We have a permanent TS server hosted by a third party. As a backup we can use Roger Wilco. Connection information can be found in our Pilot Forum in the War Room.
I've got very strong doubt that there was ever an American Volunteer Group in the Soviet Union. I have zero doubt that the webpage giving its "history" is part of some sim, and was put together by some guy who wanted a reason to have Yanks flying in a sim of Soviet Aircraft on the Eastern Front. The sim is called IL-2 Sturmovik, and here is a link to the IL-2 Sturmovik community: http://www.webring.com/t/IL-2-Sturmovik-Forgotten-Battles-Pacific-Fighters?sid=5
A few questions, if the fake 777 webpage is accurate, or at least accurate enough for Dan Rather.
If there was an AVG in the Soviet Union, and the Soviets, unlike the Chinese, had a domestic aircraft industry, and their own pilots, why weren't the pilots returned to serve the United States, as happened with the AVG pilots in China and Burma? China needed AVG pilots a lot worse than Stalin did, but after Pearl Harbor, they were brought back into our service, not all of them willingly.
Who supplied these Yanks with all the hard liquor and dollars the history mentions, while they were at Stalingrad?
They fought, without being rotated home, or sent reinforcements, from December 1941, to May, 1945, and suffered only 30% dead among the pilots? Given the weather in the Soviet Union, that would a heck of a record, even if no one was shooting at them.
If the were a fighter group, how did they just happen to have enough C-47s hanging around to evacuate everyone to American lines in May, 1945?
How many kills did LTC Mitty get?
And after the German surrender, Stalin sent all Red Army soldiers who met with and smoked cigs with, etc, Allied soldiers, into re-education camps.
/bingo
The “World At War” episode on Stalingrad is still the single best war documentary show ever.
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In all honesty the The Military Channel/ History Channel is sloppy in the stock film they use..may have been a shuttle bomber mission base
I know you know that some gamers invented alternate history? ("Luff 46" like stuff)
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