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To: MHGinTN; DakotaGator

Unfortunately, it is not clear O had or now has the burden of proving anything, until and unless he is challenged.

It appears there are two points in time to contest the eligibility of a US presidential candidate. The first opportunity is within the stated period of time provided in each state’s primary procedure for challenges. The second opportunity is during the Jan 6 joint session of Congress where an objection can be presented.

With regard to the first opportunity, it is not known how O satisfied the eligibility requirement for each state’s primary. It may be he simply checked a box that asked, “Are you eligible to serve as President?” Nonetheless, Republicans were caught napping during that opportunity and O appeared on each state’s ballot.

The second opportunity consists of a formal objection jointly presented by a Senator and a Representative on Jan 6 whereupon the matter is subject to debate.

So, it seems to me that millions of voters have got to contact the Republican politicians representing their state in DC and put the fear of the pitchfork in them and demand they prepare an objection. The objection must include overwhelming and incontrovertible evidence that O is not eligible. (In this regard, I suggest they check with Hill and Bill who have a world-wide intel network.)


19 posted on 11/12/2008 10:19:52 AM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: frog in a pot

Go to the link in #13 above and read up on the actual facts in evidence even without Barry Soetoro revealing his true birth certification for wherever it occurred. Obama is not eligible. He knows this and has been stonewalling with a platoon of attorneys inorder to allow the tension to build thus increasing the threat of violence by his black sycophants —and make no mistake, not all black people consider this man a good man or a good candidate for leadership of this nation. It is thuggish behavior to use threats of violence as a means to extort from We The People. Obama is doiing just that, extorting US.


20 posted on 11/12/2008 10:27:56 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: frog in a pot

I read that the Chicago Machine vetted him before he ran for Senator. Thugs rule.


28 posted on 11/12/2008 11:07:59 AM PST by sarasota
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To: frog in a pot
"So, it seems to me that millions of voters have got to contact the Republican politicians representing their state in DC and put the fear of the pitchfork in them and demand they prepare an objection. The objection must include overwhelming and incontrovertible evidence that O is not eligible."

Understand your comments. But I have a different view of the situation. There appear to be two items at work here whose application I do not agree with; Standing, and Burden of Proof.

With regards to the first, Standing; several courts are dismissing cases demanding Obama prove eligibility based on lack of plaintiffs' standing. This outrageous! Each and every citizen has standing to demand through the courts that a candidate prove his eligibility for elected office. For any court to rule otherwise is a travesty!

And for the courts to suggest that The People must go through Congress or the Secretaries of the Several States to force production of proof of eligibility smacks of obstruction of justice. Remember, these are the same courts which do not hesitate to manufacture "rights" out of whole cloth. So far the courts are only manufacturing the "right" for Obama to be an illegal alien!

Regarding the second item; Burden of Proof; quite simply, burden of proof is always on the candidate...for any position. For the courts and Congress to suggest otherwise is to require The People to prove a negative. And this is preposterous! The Burden of Proof regarding citizenship has always been on Obama. And he has never met it.

Yes, Congress and the courts need to become acquainted with "the fear of the pitchfork". And they need to be forcefully reminded that they do not have the authority to withhold Obama's Constitutional qualifications. By the Tenth Amendment it is a right reserved to The People to demand to see a Presidential candidate's qualifications.

We, The People have not given the Congress, the Judiciary, nor the Several States the power to withhold this information! We have reserved it to ourselves as an individual right. Then again, I'm still thinking of the United States as a Constitutional Republic.

Silly me!

43 posted on 11/12/2008 2:38:13 PM PST by DakotaGator
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