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New shipwreck documentary released on anniversary Edmund Fitzgerald's sinking
The Muskegon Chronicle ^ | 11/09/08 | Local Reports

Posted on 11/09/2008 8:44:08 PM PST by Joe 6-pack

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To: Joe 6-pack
There's also the theory of the Three Sister Waves that was bandied about when I was up in Michigan. Three extraordinary big waves. The first one took the ship down, and as it was on its way back up to the top, the second wave slammed into it, breaking the ship in half.

Another theory.

41 posted on 11/10/2008 7:30:19 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Northern Yankee

Hey.....I’m not the only FReeper with a Robert Service poem on my homepage!!


42 posted on 11/10/2008 7:33:56 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: ken21
Thanks...

There's also a children's book titled The Edmund Fitgerald, The story of the Bell.

It chronicles the ship's final voyage and the retrieval of the ship's bell. They replaced it with a replica. It included all of the ship's crew inscribed on the bell.

The book is published by Sleeping Bear Press. (www.Sleeping Bear Press.com)

43 posted on 11/10/2008 7:35:05 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Good to hear.

My father loved Robert Service. Some great poems about the First World War. (Robert Service served with the Canadian outfit in France.)

44 posted on 11/10/2008 7:37:46 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Joe 6-pack

The Edmund Fitzgerald sank?

It MUST BE Obama’s fault.


45 posted on 11/10/2008 8:31:41 PM PST by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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To: narses; Joe 6-pack

Radio transmission of the Fitz’s loss.

http://www.boatnerd.com/fitz/search.ra


46 posted on 11/10/2008 8:36:57 PM PST by Barnacle (God help us.)
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To: ottbmare
I hate that song. Three notes repeated endlessly in a drone. If the Obama Administration ever needs to torture me into a false confession, all they have to do is play that thing over and over.

I expect your opinion is in the minority.

47 posted on 11/10/2008 8:42:34 PM PST by Barnacle (God help us.)
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To: Barnacle

My views about Obama are in the minority, too. I can live with being in the minority.


48 posted on 11/10/2008 8:47:58 PM PST by ottbmare
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To: Northern Yankee

http://www.boatnerd.com/pictures/fleet/ama.htm


49 posted on 11/10/2008 10:51:30 PM PST by GoLightly (Hey, Obama. When's my check going to get here?)
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To: GoLightly
Thanks so much.

Outstanding pictures.

50 posted on 11/11/2008 3:30:52 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

here’s a piece about your fave dirge ; )


51 posted on 11/11/2008 3:32:12 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Joe 6-pack
In an original documentary they interviewed the Captain of the Anderson who was trailing behind the Fitzgerald as her radar had gone down. The Captain of the Anderson said that he thought that either a stress fracture had done it or the damage that she sustained bottoming on a reef she cut very close. I always thought that it was curious that no one dove on the reef to see if in fact she had bottomed there. That large a ship and that large a cargo bottoming on that reef would surely leave an indication.

Hard to die in the cold and wet of Lake Superior in November......

Prayers for all those who go down to the sea in ships.

52 posted on 11/11/2008 1:40:53 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Joe 6-pack
In an original documentary they interviewed the Captain of the Anderson who was trailing behind the Fitzgerald as her radar had gone down. The Captain of the Anderson said that he thought that either a stress fracture had done it or the damage that she sustained bottoming on a reef she cut very close. I always thought that it was curious that no one dove on the reef to see if in fact she had bottomed there. That large a ship and that large a cargo bottoming on that reef would surely leave an indication.

Hard to die in the cold and wet of Lake Superior in November......

Prayers for all those who go down to the sea in ships.

53 posted on 11/11/2008 1:54:55 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

LOL....I read it the first time you posted it 14 minutes ago! I may be slow, but c’mon!


54 posted on 11/11/2008 2:00:01 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

What can I tell you. Keep pushing the button! LOL!


55 posted on 11/11/2008 4:14:09 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine; JoeSixPack; FrPR
The CG story was that the waves were so high, and the corresponding troughs so deep, that when the EF set on that course, which she would have easily survived in better weather, she repeatedly banged her bottom in the troughs.

Also, incredible as it may seem in a lake, that particular contour wasn't accurately charted. Reckon it is now! BTW, the series of dives in which the bell and other artifacts were discovered was well documented and has already been broadcast.

PS, Gordon Lightfoot, the only serious rival to Leonard Cohen in the hotly contested "Most Boring Canadian Singer" sweepstakes, is quite an experienced lake sailor and wooden boat aficcionado. Thus, as long as he leaves his guitar in the Frozen North, he is welcome in Maine.

56 posted on 11/13/2008 9:02:36 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Marxist Muslim Cousin Odinga burned Christians in their churches. Obama bought him the gas.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

My own theory is that the ship bottomed out in a trough while “threading the needle”, took on water in the bough/midship area, and pitchpoled into the back of a wave. Once canted foreward, waterweight, shifting ore cargo and the lifting action of the following wave face on the stern would have combined to doom the ship.

It broke apart crashing into the lakebed.

The reason I like this theory is that it more plausibly explains all the facts.

Am I missing something?


57 posted on 11/13/2008 12:21:06 PM PST by shamusotoole
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