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New Fighter Jet: Controversial Future of the U.S. Fleet (F-35)
Live Science ^ | Nov. 8, 2008 | Dave Majumdar

Posted on 11/09/2008 2:10:26 PM PST by decimon

The F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) is slated to become the backbone of the U.S. tactical aviation fleet. This ambitious program aims to replace the combined U.S. Defense Department arsenal of F-16 Fighting Falcons, F/A-18 Hornets, A-10 Thunderbolts, and the AV-8B Harrier combat aircraft with a single platform capable of being adapted to the divergent needs of the U.S. Air Force, the U.S. Navy, and the U.S. Marine Corps.

The new fighter will not only replace those rapidly aging aircraft in the colossal American inventory, but the jet is also expected to become the mainstay of Allied air forces in Great Britain, Australia, and a host of other nations.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: f35; jointstrikefighter; lockheed; martin
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To: decimon

Decimon,

You deliver.
No, you OVER-deliver. So much that I feel a bit of guilt about sounding
like a whiner!!!

I love this one:
http://www.jsf.mil/images/gallery/sdd/f35_test/b/sdd_f35testb_003.jpg


21 posted on 11/09/2008 4:03:55 PM PST by VOA
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To: decimon
I recall stories of VC being able to toss things into the air to cause the F-111 to automatically perform loop-de-loops or some such.

IIRC, the F-111's Terrain Following Radar's failure mode was to do an abrupt pitch-up maneuver, and apparently it was prone to a lot of false alarms. The pilot had an override switch (called "the paddle," I think) that he could use to override failure mode and apparently 'hitting the paddle' had become automatic reaction to sudden pitch-ups on stateside training flights. Unfortunately, Southeast Asia has lots of karst topography and several F-111s were supposed to have been lost by being flown (on override) into the sides of rock towers.

That failure mode maneuver may be what you're thinking of. The VC's making use of it by 'tossing things in the air' sounds apocryphal, though.

22 posted on 11/09/2008 4:13:38 PM PST by Grut
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To: VOA

Now for the bad news...

You’ve linked to a classified site so you will soon be visited by three guys named Hal.


23 posted on 11/09/2008 4:16:15 PM PST by decimon
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To: Grut
That failure mode maneuver may be what you're thinking of. The VC's making use of it by 'tossing things in the air' sounds apocryphal, though.

Yeah, that would be the reality but reality never makes for a good story. ;-)

24 posted on 11/09/2008 4:23:24 PM PST by decimon
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To: Grut

Yeah,,, thats nonsense about the VC throwing things in the air. We were camping deep in the mountains in NM one night. Turns out we were under a Cannon AFB low-level training route.

To a modern AAA system, i understand the F-111 is vulnerable. To guys around a campfire its like this. You hear a strange suction sound and at about the same instant you are conscious of the sound,,it seems like the world explodes as it passes you. If we were charlie or haji around the fire, we would have known about a second before the bombs hit. Very eye opening.

A-10s are fun too. They worked over our Marine rifle company for fun once when we were on Ft Hood Army base. They turn so tightly that two of em kept us CONTINUALLY in their sights ,, presumably for as long as they felt like it! As one passed over and you raised to aim, his partner had already turned and was beginning his pass on you. Had to see it to believe it. Mixed in with Cobras or Apaches,, i just cant imagine.
I always felt pretty doomed as a grunt when i met up with our machinery.

I think you are very right about charlie throwing his hat in the air,,, sounds like a barroom joke that got out of hand.


25 posted on 11/09/2008 6:01:39 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: decimon
Now for the bad news...

You’ve linked to a classified site so you will soon be visited by
three guys named Hal.


As soon as they "interview me", they'll report to their boss:
"No way he hacked our system. He's not that bright."
26 posted on 11/09/2008 7:18:06 PM PST by VOA
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To: decimon

chopping block.


27 posted on 11/10/2008 5:07:40 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: NavVet
chopping block.

Me? The guillotine? I'm innocent! Really!

28 posted on 11/10/2008 5:43:59 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

The F35 along with a lot of other defense projects.


29 posted on 11/10/2008 5:58:24 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: decimon

The F-35 is shiny, and can easily replace, the F-16, F-18 and AV-8 Harrier, but NOTHING can replace the A-10 but a better, specifically designed A-10 replacement. If it can’t go in low and slow, and still survive, it can’t replace the A-10.


30 posted on 11/10/2008 6:00:39 AM PST by Little Ray (Joe the Plumber. He's our only hope... God help him.)
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To: NavVet
The F35 along with a lot of other defense projects.

Your defense projects are someone's pork.

31 posted on 11/10/2008 7:23:34 AM PST by decimon
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To: Little Ray
If it can’t go in low and slow, and still survive, it can’t replace the A-10.

I think you'll understand when I say I hope you're wrong.

32 posted on 11/10/2008 7:24:54 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

There will be resistance, but resistance is futile. All will be assimilated.


33 posted on 11/10/2008 7:27:18 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: B-Chan

I just want that they should keep the A10’s around...”for those up close and personal encounters, just in case”

(shades of Michael Biehn in “Aliens” keeping his beloved shot-gun close at hand)


34 posted on 11/10/2008 7:53:01 AM PST by mdmathis6 (I'm Mike the RN!( I often do plumbing of a different sort))
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To: decimon

Hope is nice, but F-16’s can’t do an A-10’s work and, IMHO, neither can F-35s.


35 posted on 11/10/2008 12:33:42 PM PST by Little Ray (Joe the Plumber. He's our only hope... God help him.)
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To: Little Ray
I think the A-10 is the best looking aircraft we have. It just looks like it wants to hurt something. I have always been a fan of it. I have seen the f35 prototype up close I can give or take on it. I think the f35 has value in reducing overall costs, but I don't think it will out perform any of the aircraft it is going to “replace”.
36 posted on 11/12/2008 6:27:45 AM PST by DYngbld (Aspire to inspire before you expire)
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