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I think Obama absolutely HAS to govern from the center. It’s what he promised to do in his campaign, and why many independents and moderates voted for him. If he doesn’t do that in some demonstrable way - I don’t think he stands a chance at being re-elected.

I really don’t think Obama is after guns. I’m not sure why ANYONE is after guns. Is it really on anyone’s to-do list? I don’t think there’s a shred of evidence anywhere that tighter gun laws - beyond the simple enforcement of what’s on the books now - does anything to benefit anyone anywhere. It would also mean Obama would lose the support of many democrats who are pro-gun, and NEED to be pro-gun in order to get re-elected.

So I don’t think that’s going to happen. I might be wrong - but I don’t think that is on the top of anyone’s priority list.

As for the Censorship Doctrine, I have no real idea what that is. I know it has something to do with talk radio, but I don’t listen to talk radio. I tried to listen to Air America once - thinking “Hey! Talk Radio for the left, that’s awesome!” It was not awesome. It was very, very far from awesome.


618 posted on 11/09/2008 11:25:19 PM PST by Traviswf
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To: Traviswf
I don’t think there’s a shred of evidence anywhere that tighter gun laws - beyond the simple enforcement of what’s on the books now

Yes there is plenty of evidence from the anti-gun lobby. Regarding just "enforcing what's on the books." Well, we can probably live with that as a compromise but I doubt this side will go any further. It was already taken too far under Clinton. We don't keep our weapons for hunting primarily. We keep them to protect ourselves from the government and tyrants. That just needs to be laid flat out on the table. That's what the 2nd amendment was about. No right to keep and bear shall be infringed upon.
620 posted on 11/09/2008 11:32:00 PM PST by FTL
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To: Traviswf
As for the Censorship Doctrine, I have no real idea what that is. I know it has something to do with talk radio, but I don’t listen to talk radio. I tried to listen to Air America once - thinking “Hey! Talk Radio for the left, that’s awesome!” It was not awesome. It was very, very far from awesome.

Well, read up on it from our perspective. I'm not typing up the dissertation tonight, too much to go in to. Yes, Air America sucks and Liberal radio doesn't sell which is validation that the nation is Center-Right.
622 posted on 11/09/2008 11:33:57 PM PST by FTL
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To: Traviswf
I really don’t think Obama is after guns.

_______________________Well you are wrong.

I’m not sure why ANYONE is after guns.

_____________________Same reason Hitler disarmed the public. A disarmed public can then be easily ruled and tyranny and oppression can be imposed.

Is it really on anyone’s to-do list?

__________________It was first on Hitler's to-do list. It's been on the to-do list of Liberal's in this nation for years. They hate guns, many of them are vegan's and don't want anyone eating meat or owning guns. They don't want us to be able to defend ourselves from tyranny and oppression. They put their entire faith and trust in government. This is central to Socialism - full faith and trust in government rather than freedom of the people. We don't trust government. Over the years they have already passed restrictions on our rights to arms ourselves. See, government is made up of simply a bunch of your neighbors. We don't trust those bastards with ANYTHING - let alone "ruling" us. They want control. They want to rule. They want to impose THEIR will. THEIR worldview. They want to oppress others who don't support their ideology.

There's a problem with that - we are un-ruleable. We are governable, but we are not ruleable. We believe in the founding principals of freedom.
631 posted on 11/10/2008 6:37:30 AM PST by FTL
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