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Obama - how fast will he go full-bore commie or will he stay the course?

Posted on 11/05/2008 2:55:43 AM PST by so_wut

Obama got where he is by playing it cool, Saul Alinsky-style (look him up on wikipedia) . Never showed his true thoughts on anything and always wore a tie. Speak moderately and don't frighten the squares. Will he suddenly go openly commie or will he keep up what has worked so far, moving slowly? A few judges here, a few redistrictings there, over there a slowly asphyxiated industry or two. Just little enough to not rouse the slumbering masses until it's too late for them to get his hands off the levers of power.

I'm afraid that it'll be like the storied frog that sat in the water and never noticed the temperature rise to boiling. If he tore off his mask immediately, he'd be finished and 2010 would see the end of his effectiveness.

I think he or his handlers are way too smart for that. In fact, he may at first even seem a moderate influence compared to obvious loonies like Nancy Pelosi or Jim Moran.

Scary.


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To: meyer

No he will go slow, he said last night it would take longer than his first term to get what he wanted done. He will wait until his second term, he governs as a moderate his first term, throws a few bones to Republicans and few things to the mad libs, but second term, he goes wild with his commie agenda!


21 posted on 11/05/2008 3:26:54 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: so_wut

Depends whether he was using Wright and Ayers or really is a Marxist. If he was using them, I think he will be a President Present and do nothing, then when the 4 years are up, he will go on the speech circuit and make lots of money.


22 posted on 11/05/2008 3:29:51 AM PST by igoramus08
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To: so_wut
Obama got where he is by playing it cool, Saul Alinsky-style (look him up on wikipedia) . Never showed his true thoughts on anything and always wore a tie. Speak moderately and don't frighten the squares. Will he suddenly go openly commie or will he keep up what has worked so far, moving slowly?

My guess is that he will go for the "fast" option.

As Senator Biden said, it's likely that our enemies are going to quickly challenge the callow Kenyan Clown.

He probably will flake out almost immediately on the international front, and will flail around domestically, attempting to institute as much socialism as he can convince Nancy Pelosi to provide.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a few retreads, such as a Hillary-style "Commission on National Health Service" very early on.

23 posted on 11/05/2008 3:34:05 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: so_wut
Two procedural things to look for:

1) On the first day of the new Senate, rules will be adopted abolishing the filibuster or at least lowering cloture to 55 in order to render 43 or 44 Republicans irrelevant (...just like 1975 when cloture was lowered from 67 to 60 in order to render 38 Republicans irrelevant after the higher figure had been used to protect 35 Dixiecrats for decades. Coincidentally, it was a Speaker named Reed who eliminated the filibuster in 1886 in the House of Representatives.)

2) Illegal immigration will be ended by legalizing the 20 million illegals already here and opening the border to another 20-30 million Mexicans who will promptly register for welfare and to vote, permanently swamping the divided native White electorate.

24 posted on 11/05/2008 3:37:12 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: so_wut
Well, after he guts the military as he said he would, we will be sitting ducks and will be attacked. Then, to “save” us during this “crisis,” he will enact every Socialistic/Marxist program he has dreamed up. Or that his puppet masters have dreamed up. He is not the one pulling the strings. Follow the money.
25 posted on 11/05/2008 3:42:05 AM PST by Heartland Mom (Those who would give up liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Franklin)
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To: so_wut

I think we need to start working on the conservative agenda.

1. HEALTHCARE, why can’t we cross state lines for health insurance.

2. Voter fraud, sorry but one person one vote is not a class issue. One state per voters.

3. Social issues matter.

4. Cultivate REAL conservatives in our LOCAL races. Commissions, school boards, mayors and STATE bodies.

5. Get ready for REDISTRICTING! The census is in 2010. The rules for enumeration will be set by pelosi and reid.

6. EDUCATION EDUCATION EDUCATION. Conservative principles start and finish with EDUCATING people. If we want to win elections we have to teach the principles and concepts that founded this nation. Little lessons yield big decisions.


26 posted on 11/05/2008 3:42:59 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Two procedural things to look for:

1) On the first day of the new Senate, rules will be adopted abolishing the filibuster or at least lowering cloture to 55 in order to render 43 or 44 Republicans irrelevant (...just like 1975 when cloture was lowered from 67 to 60 in order to render 38 Republicans irrelevant after the higher figure had been used to protect 35 Dixiecrats for decades. Coincidentally, it was a Speaker named Reed who eliminated the filibuster in 1886 in the House of Representatives.)

You know them well. Yes, that’s exactly how the Marxists operate; they use the system to change the system so that it ceases to be democratic and soon doesn’t work any more.


27 posted on 11/05/2008 3:47:07 AM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: so_wut

Obama’s first order of business will be to get to work on his re-election in 2012. ‘Never his mind on where he was, what he was doing.’ In every ‘job’ he’s had, he’s spent the entire time preparing for his NEXT job. I think he’s scared witless. Campaigning is all he knows how to do.


28 posted on 11/05/2008 3:56:56 AM PST by informavoracious (U.S.A. 1776-2008 R.I.P.)
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To: so_wut
States Rights, every red(gray) state Governor should push to the limits, their legal power to be autonomous states. Start standing up to federal courts, kick out the federal government out at every "legal" opportunity. Governors might close bases and replace them with state militias training facilities(probably not possible). Push it to the limit. It would only take one state to do this, i.e. Texas.

I can dream can't I.....

29 posted on 11/05/2008 3:59:33 AM PST by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: so_wut

What do you say to people who look at him as the messiah and do not even have a clue as to the ightmare he brings.?


30 posted on 11/05/2008 4:01:08 AM PST by Ramonna Villota
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To: so_wut; All
"I guarantee you that two weeks from now you'll see that this has been a very close race and I guarantee you I'm going to win it."
31 posted on 11/05/2008 4:02:32 AM PST by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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To: so_wut

He’ll be fiscally conservative, surprising everyone, and therefore destroy any chances that the cooling embers of republican conservatism with catch flame.

He’ll cut back in iraq and the tens of billions being spent there but not to the extent that a bloodbath will occur.

He’ll truly go after bin Laden, again surprising everyone, even to the point of boots on the ground in Pakistan. He has the moral authority - Nixon in China - to demand access from Pakistan.

Pelosi and Reid will soon learn they are his butt boys, not the other way around. Our retirement accounts will not be seized and cap gains will not be increased. But the rich will get higher taxes.

He’ll continue the nationalization of healthcare that Bush started - sorry but when Bush did prescription drugs the horse was out of the barn - and will take McCain’s idea of taxing bennies to eliminate the tax bias of healthcare only for the employed. Again, no conservative will be able to campaign against that.

He’ll drill for oil close offhshore, again seizing the republican idea.

He’ll nominate center-left judges. Sucks.


32 posted on 11/05/2008 4:06:31 AM PST by gotribe (obama just sucks - your wealth away)
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To: so_wut

He’s already a full-bore communist, but behind the scenes.


33 posted on 11/05/2008 4:06:45 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: so_wut
I'm afraid that it'll be like the storied frog that sat in the water and never noticed the temperature rise to boiling.

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I don't think you have anything to worry about.

34 posted on 11/05/2008 4:08:21 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: so_wut
Mostly true as I understand it, but he DID reveal his thoughts on infanticide and our troops in Iraq by actually putting forth a concrete VOTES.

Twice.

And this black president VOTED to force doctors and nurses to leave little babies who survive an abortion attempt, in other words are born ALIVE, to be left to DIE-no comfort-no medical assist if needed-no food-water or ANYTHING!!!!

I look at barack hussein obama, the first black President of the USA, and I see a man who is BLACK alright, but who cares about the outside skin color, it is the BLACK inside this man's heart and soul that makes me turn from him in disgust.

And I am ashamed that he is going to be our leader and our Commander in Chief, because he has voted for outright MURDER of THE MOST INNOCENT AMONG US.

Along with his penchant for infanticide, he also voted to DEFUND our troops while......WHILE...they are at war...in HARMS WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And this community organizer is going to LEAD THESE VERY TROOPS AS A COMMANDER IN CHIEF????? I am aghast!

I despise him for his stance on these two issues. And I cannot look at his mug without thinking about how this monster behaves. Our press deceived our nation in their quest to have this immature, selfish, sorry excuse for an American elected.

35 posted on 11/05/2008 4:16:17 AM PST by Republic (Barack is anti-Jewish, has to be, or he would have left Wright's church years ago!)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

And we will be back in 2010.

How many in congress want to committ political suicide?

Be serious, it is the Dream Act Amnesty that would be the vehicle. We have to surge out again.


36 posted on 11/05/2008 4:23:54 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: so_wut

Best Case: We get 8 years of BJ Clinton.

Next best case: We get 8 years of Jimmy Carter.

Most likely: We get 8 years of both, with some Stalin and Mugabe thrown in.


37 posted on 11/05/2008 4:24:23 AM PST by factoryrat (Better living through American Industrial Might.)
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To: so_wut

welcome to free republic.

where were you on 11/4?


38 posted on 11/05/2008 4:24:38 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: so_wut

“GO full bore Commie”? He already is.


39 posted on 11/05/2008 4:40:30 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: gotribe

OOooooo a coolade drinker. What non-sense.

Having fun with your victory! Remember that the true believers are put up against the wall by the cynical power grabbers.


40 posted on 11/05/2008 4:45:09 AM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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