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Need computer help from FReeper computer experts (fatal system error c00021a and assorted viruses)

Posted on 10/31/2008 10:12:07 PM PDT by lowbridge

This is a bit lengthy, so please bear with me.

Damn, but I did something stupid and downloaded something I shouldnt have (no, not porn. get your mind out of the gutter :-)). When I downloaded this virus, the cmd screen came up and showed the following: crack.exe, serial.exe, number.exe, keygen.exe AND readme.bat

I panicked, deleted those things, but it hasnt fixed my problem. It seems to have hijacked my internet explorer browser. When I clicked on the IE icon, it brought up the IE browser for all of a second or two before closing. (So, I used Firefox to browse the web, which is working, thankfully) Oh, the IE browser did appear, that is when one of those pop up advertisements comes up. Which I had NO control over. It came up whenever it felt like it, then it stays open untill I close it. BUT I could not use it to browse the web as there are no buttons, tool bar, address box, etc.

And it seemed to prevent me from running/installing spyware. Oh, I was able to download the applications of some spyware programs, but then when I tried to open the application and run them, the damn virus wont let it! I have run a scan with some freeware spy scanning programs and much to my shock they revealed over 250 problems. worse of which are named "spyware.igmonster", zlob, (also spelled out by one scanning program as zlop (with a "p"), trojan.infostealer.bankers

Some spyware programs seemed to be able to download, but when I ran them, they seem to have failed in getting rid of the viruses. (I am using freeware as I do not have any money to buy a good anti virus program) Some seem to do more harm than good as one such program seems to have made me delete some important windows files (a couple of ".exe" files. The spyware program warned me about deleting such a file because it was in my WINDOWS folder, but I chose to delete them anyways as the spyware told me that they were infected) because when I tried to shut down my computer, it gave me a blue screen and an error message (coooo21a). So I had to manually turn it off, but even sometimes that didnt work, so I have to unplug it.

That isnt the end of it.

It was bad enough getting that error message when I tried to shut down my computer, but after another attempted fix of the viruses, it got worse. Now I get that blue screen with the error message when I turn on my computer and try to boot up! I would get a blue screen with the folllowing message;

STOP: c00021a (Fatal System Error) The Windows Logon Process System process terminated unexpectedly with a status of 0x00000000 (0x00000000 0x00000000) The system has been shut down

And the computer wouldnt do anything. It would just sit there with that message staring at me. I would try to shut down the computer by pressing the power button on the tower, but even that wouldnt work! I would have to unplug the computer to get it to shut off!

NOW I'm getting it when I'm trying to start up my computer! I've tried to get around that by starting it in safe mode, but then I just get the above 'fatal error" all over again.

How can I fix this? Can I fix this myself (I'm not computer literate) or do I need the services of a professional (how much do they usuallly charge?)


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: computer; fatalerror; getamac; microsoft; virus; windows
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To: lowbridge

Why does the video change?


81 posted on 11/01/2008 4:01:41 AM PDT by tagarnier2374
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82 posted on 11/01/2008 5:19:37 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: lowbridge

Can you boot from a cd or floppy and see your hard drive?


83 posted on 11/01/2008 5:25:09 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: BreezyDog

His motherboard isn’t fried, stop saying that. But he will have to reprogram his computer. Sounds like whatever he got messed up his OS bigtime.


84 posted on 11/01/2008 6:26:03 AM PDT by pctech
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To: lowbridge
I had a similar problem on an upgrade that sent me to PC hell. I grabbed a copy of the Kubuntu Linux Live CD ^ and booted the PC from it. I could get out to all of my folders that I needed to collect data from and dumped them onto another CD, then wiped and reloaded my WinXP. I don't know squat about software coding, and have absolutely no desire to learn, but both the Kubuntu and WinXP are pretty good at stepping you through the needed operations you need to complete to get your system back. Good luck.
85 posted on 11/01/2008 8:40:05 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Tribune7

I’ve tried rebooting from a CD (using my brothers windows xp service pack 2 reinstallation disc), but that doesnt seem to work.


86 posted on 11/01/2008 9:23:34 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge
Find a Windows XP CD, preferably one that has Service Pack 2 or 3 already on it. If your XP CD has no Service Pack or Service Pack 1, then you need to be careful about connection to the internet if you don't have a hardware firewall/router between your computer and the internet. Direct connection on pre-XP Service Pack 2 installs lets your computer get infected almost instantly on a fresh install.

I would start by installing a Windows XP CD, turn on the computer, then press F12 to get the alternate boot screen. Choose to boot from the CD. Once loaded up, you run a “R” for Repair Windows. Don't select to reformat the drive, as your data will be fine with a new copy of Windows. It will install Windows, then it will need your serial number off the back of the computer. Let it continue to install. Keep the system off the internet this whole time.

Once Windows is re-installed, if SP 2 or greater was on the CD, then feel free to connect to the internet. If not, then you'll need to go into Network Connections, find your adapter, and turn on the firewall option there (there is one, but it doesn't turn itself on in the earlier versions) Follow this:

http://www.uic.edu/depts/accc/lan/res-net/xpfirewall.html

Once that is on, then do two things. Go to Avira.com and download their free anti-virus program, install it, and go into the Advanced portion to set it to find all the types of programs possible, and also choose Advanced Heuristics. Update the antivirus manually, then disconnect from the internet. Scan your computer with the highest settings.

Avira is totally free and has top marks from independent tests (http://av-comparatives.org/). When done, go to Google and type in “Google Pack”. You want the free version of Spyware Doctor. This thing gets a ton of spyware, but it is a resource hog. Let it install and update it manually, then run it on your computer. Once it is done and you remove whatever it finds, uninstall the thing (or better, disable it for boot-up so it doesn't automatically load up, and use it once a week to re-clean your system).

You will be back to being fine, with most of your programs still working (without reinstalls needed), and all of your data will be there.

I'm not sure why others haven't mentioned this approach. It will sure save a lot of program and data loss.

87 posted on 11/01/2008 9:50:57 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Concerning Larry Sinclair: It is strange when you can be thankful for having a pervert on your side.)
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To: lowbridge

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/156669/?sd=RMVP

painfull solution


88 posted on 11/01/2008 9:56:05 AM PDT by stylin19a ( Real Men don't declare unplayable lies)
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To: ConservativeMind
I'm not sure why others haven't mentioned this approach

Almost everyone has a different opinion on how to fix this problem, and advising all different sorts of software. :-) When it comes to fixing a problem like this, I'm a bit timid. This computer cost alot of money, and I'm afraid to tinker with it in order to fix it because my fear is that being computer illiterate, I MIGHT make the problem worse or cause myself another problem on this expensive machine. But I have to because I really would like to avoid paying a professional to do it all for me, as I cant spare the money.

89 posted on 11/01/2008 10:01:09 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Once you decide whose advice to follow, and you resolve this problem, be sure to follow this extremely wise advice:

Install a second hard drive in your computer, and store all of the data files on the 2nd drive. IOW, the files containing all of your Email messages, the files with your Word documents, the files with your Quicken financial data.

Your boot (system) drive will have the operating systems and all of your applications, and the 2nd drive will contain all of your data files. (I then back up all my data files to a folder on my boot drive. That way the back up is on a different hard drive than the original data files.)

Then, when WindowsXP goes ga-ga again, it will be an easy decision to simply reformat the system drive and reinstall everything. You’ll still lose a day or three reinstalling and configuring everything, but you won’t lose your data files.

I also have a couple of Macs and what I do with those computers is to use an OS X application named SuperDuper to create a clone of my boot drive volume, and I keep it updated weekly. If the boot drive ever goes paws up, my clone is ready to take its place in seconds.


90 posted on 11/01/2008 10:18:39 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: pctech

I was kidding around...half lit.


91 posted on 11/01/2008 10:48:14 AM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: lowbridge
Can't help with windows problems...but this might be of interest:

How to get down off a duck ( why Linux is inherently more secure than Windows.)

92 posted on 11/01/2008 11:18:29 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: BreezyDog
I was kidding around...

Whew ;-)

93 posted on 11/01/2008 11:23:53 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

A professional would give you piece of mind. But it would be best to assume that things are going to change.

I would seriously consider a dual boot with Linux. Linux is good for 99% of what people do on their computer and it is impervious to viruses.


94 posted on 11/01/2008 11:33:44 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: lowbridge
You need to do something and try and sort out whether you really have a hardware problem or a virus induced problem...which can look like a hardware problem.

Multiple ways you can do that....

Have you tried to boot an OS off of the CD....

A possibility would be to download Puppy Linux on your brothers computer and burn an ISO( bootable ) copy of the download...assuming he knows how to do that.

It is a small download..... under 100Meg

a small, fast operating system running from CDs, USB sticks and hard disks

Distrowatch page :

Distribution Release: Puppy Linux 4.1

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95 posted on 11/01/2008 11:39:44 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: lowbridge
I’ve tried rebooting from a CD (using my brothers windows xp service pack 2 reinstallation disc), but that doesnt seem to work.

That may depend on you having a functioning windows system on the computer's hard drive...and you don't seem to have that...so the fact that it failed doesn't tell us much.

96 posted on 11/01/2008 11:42:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: lowbridge
Download malwarebytes on your brother's computer, put it on a flash drive, and try to install it on your computer. That program is free, and it's removed a ton of nasty stuff from my computer. Might want to run safe mode with networking so it can update itself once it's on your machine.
97 posted on 11/01/2008 11:45:37 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: lowbridge

http://www.komando.com/


98 posted on 11/01/2008 11:47:41 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: Westlander

Give me some links to goofball sites...


99 posted on 11/01/2008 12:17:44 PM PDT by GregB (Palin for President in 2012. Let's start now!!!!!)
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To: lowbridge
If you are into puzzles there are probably several things you could play around with but the fellow who suggested taking it in for service probably gave you the best advice.

And if your computer is four years old or so, and there is nothing you really need from the hard drive, the fellow who suggested buying a replacement wasn't off-track either.

Go to a local shop for service, get an estimate, then ask if he has any used computers available. There might be one for less than $100.

100 posted on 11/01/2008 1:15:33 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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