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Bloggers fear Obama using the draft as loophole for slavery/indoctrination [Vanity]

Posted on 10/22/2008 2:34:35 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March

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To: OpusatFR

It depends on the crisis that triggers it. Conservatives are legendary for supporting a war effort. FDR had all kinds of socialist programs after Pearl, and conservatives endured it for the war.


21 posted on 10/22/2008 2:58:42 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (John Paul Jones: I have yet begun to fight!)
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To: SolidWood

Obama believes women should register for draft
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=77875


22 posted on 10/22/2008 3:06:24 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (John Paul Jones: I have yet begun to fight!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
This is probably one of the biggest thing that bothers me about obama.

He is pushing volunteering efforts that will offer young adults money for college tuition. All they would have to do is volunteer in a new volunteer corp that would be set up and run by Obama minded people.

So it isn't enough that out higher education system is an indoctrination system. But now students will be putting physical sweet equity into programs that will help them with there education funding...

This will shurley create a strong attachment to the liberal ideals that will be taught and preached and forced down these students throats as they are trying to help themselves...

What obama never mentions in any of his plans for voluntary service rewards is that volunteer ism is alive and well in all communities all over this country. These volunteer's encompass firefighter, EMT, sheriff, school, PTA etc.

These programs are extremely successfully in there own right. They are administered by the people who know what is best for there our own community's Why wouldn't obama want to use the existing network that is controlled and administered by the localities they serve...

The potential tragic effect of consolidating this nations volunteers can only be compared to like private organizations that are currently controlled by the left. A perfect example is ACORN and the rot that lays within our federal system.

Our volunteers who volunteer for many different reasons but now with federal oversight will surely be organized and used as a weapon. This would prove the most devastating to this country's very fabric for one very simple reason. There are volunteers in every single community, village, town, city etc. This means the agendas set forth on the national level will be administered into the local community's..... These are areas where Marxism has had a difficult time penetrating into for the obvious reasons.

Remember folks if obama god forbid he wins try’s to implement this program must be fought with every tooth and nail. It wont be easy. There will promises of bigger budget, better facility's etc as do all social Marxist programs. But as many of us know these programs are not ment to help but only to expand the agenda of the people pushing these programs. If you are a volunteer please try to articulate this to all your brethren in your volunteering community... people must be educated of the detrimental effects of these programs obama wants to anchor into our community's

23 posted on 10/22/2008 3:07:02 PM PDT by Vlaxo
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To: Vlaxo

Right. And what the heck did he tell Michelle Obama?

“You’ll be required to work ...” Required?


24 posted on 10/22/2008 3:12:47 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (John Paul Jones: I have yet begun to fight!)
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To: NEMDF; Calpernia; mylife; Eva; Oldexpat; F15Eagle; Clintonfatigued; 353FMG; Mamzelle; Rome2000; ...

Yes, and it’s what he said at the Service Nation Forum at Columbia, part of his quote:

OBAMA QUOTE:
“I want to restore that.

But it’s also important that a president speaks to military service as an obligation not just of some, but of many. You know, I traveled, obviously, a lot over the last 19 months. And if you go to small towns, throughout the Midwest or the Southwest or the South, every town has tons of young people who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s not always the case in other parts of the country, in more urban centers. And I think it’s important for the president to say, this is an important obligation. If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some.” unquote.


25 posted on 10/22/2008 3:18:28 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Republic

It’s marxism...and it smells of the militants SDS Ayers/Dohrn and the followers of Karl Marx and Hitler.


26 posted on 10/22/2008 3:19:44 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Obama said even Senior Citizens would have to work and volunteer, if able.

The school districts would lose Federal Funding if they don’t make the jr high and high schools 10-19 serve 50 hrs per year...it’s so they can do mass brainwashing..


27 posted on 10/22/2008 3:22:09 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: theDentist; Calpernia; mylife; Eva; Oldexpat; F15Eagle; Clintonfatigued; 353FMG; Mamzelle; PGalt; ..

Here is the best link about this, and if you use the blue links inside this you will find massive research someone already has done, and CALIFORNIA is already using this SERVICE EDUCATION TO BRAIN WASH their students...

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/1-service.htm

BIDEN COMMENT IS ALL TELLLING because OBAMA DEMS ARE GOING TO CREATE A CRISI TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN, and here is someone else quoting Rockefellar:

We are on the verge of a global transformation,” said David Rockefeller. “All we need is the right major crisis...”[12]
[Note: To understand the history and practical details of “Service Learning,” please read Serving a Greater Whole]


29 posted on 10/22/2008 3:29:21 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: NEMDF
Good lord!... do we have to loadup with rifles & wire cutter with these people?
30 posted on 10/22/2008 3:33:11 PM PDT by tophat9000 (plumber"... the joe "all are We...... Obama's Thugocracys to Note)
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To: SolidWood

He didn’t say he would draft people into civil service corps. This is ridiculous. Do you honestly think that if Obama is elected he is going to institute slavery in this country, and/or lock people up in “re-education camps”, or any of the other silly stuff said around here? It may not be good for the country if he’s elected, but some of these theories are just plain loony.


31 posted on 10/22/2008 3:35:43 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I volunteer with Habitat for Humanity and we get a lot of kids through AmeriCorps. They are really good kids (or young adults, technically) and they are dedicated, responsible and want to take time in their lives to help others less fortunate. They volunteer for up to two years and are paid right around the poverty level for the area to which they are sent. Is there something wrong with expanding AmeriCorps? Are we supposed to think it is some evil organization?


32 posted on 10/22/2008 3:39:24 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: Crystal Cove

In OBAMA’S HANDS it would become a propaganda teaching marxism machine..have you not seen the UTUBE VIDEOS OF THE BLACK TEENS MARCHING CHANTING ‘alpha omega Obama’??

This is NOT ABOUT VOLUNTEERING...it is about control and CHANGE FROM FREEDOM TO COMMUNISM...

ALL THESE BLOGS ARE WORRIED TOO:

http://blog.hillary-clintons-voice.com/is-a-military-draft-in-obamas-future-plans-2095

http://charts.technorati.com/posts/Uv1yJsfGAG3NVKDXqZ1VRzqxd7ENSSLIEBCbsWNRip0%3D

http://lgstarr.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-plans-national-draft-for-all.html

http://www.rense.com/general83/obm.htm

http://www.radicalleft.net/blog/_archives/2008/9/15/3885185.html

http://www.victoriousopposition.com/index.php/site/comments/obama-would-draft-women-send-them-into-combat/

http://prorev.com/2008/09/obama-hints-return-of-draft.html

Socialism is the least of our worries, and “spreading the wealth” is only the beginning. Obama has said time and again what he is going to do...read some of it.


33 posted on 10/22/2008 3:43:44 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Vlaxo

I haven’t heard him propose anything that would consolidate volunteers in general or give volunteers federal oversight.

Each president comes out with some type of volunteer program — remember “FreedomCorps”? They certainly don’t encompass private volunteers, and if you want to volunteer at your local animal shelter, food bank, fire department, etc., this has nothing to do with that.


34 posted on 10/22/2008 3:45:48 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: Crystal Cove

It is not inconceivable. Obama idolizes Fidel and Che. The first thing Fidel did after the revolution succeeded was to draft all boys FOURTEEN YEARS OLD and up. Then send them to indoctrination camps.

Ask some of the older Miami Cubans who escaped just in time.

A very good friend of mine was at the airport with her sons, aged 13, 10, and 8, ready to board a plane for America. Her sister was there with her sons, age 14 and 10. Both mothers looked on helplessly as the fourteen-year-old was dragged away by soldiers to be taken to camp.

My friend and her boys were allowed to board the plane. They escaped. Her sister refused to leave without her older son, so she and both boys stayed behind. She never had another opportunity to escape.

Even in her 80’s, my friend grieved for the loss of her sister and nephews.

Do we want that sort of thing here?


35 posted on 10/22/2008 3:50:35 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama on Ayers: "He's just a guy in my neighborhood." LIAR!!!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Sounds like Obama is a member of the National Democrat Socialist Party (Nazi). Consider his recent speech in Nuremberg Germany at the same site where Hitler had his big party at back in the 1930's.

If any of the liberal type of people had any inkling who he is, they would not be support him. Consider one group - the homosexuals. First thing, I don't endorse their choice but people of that "orientation" should be wary. Hitler had homosexuals killed. Another group, the Jewish people living in the USA. For many years, they supported the democrat party but voting for Obama would sign their "warrant" towards a much harsher life - if they survive. Another group - the Roman Catholics, this would probably be a group he will go after like Hitler did. I know many Catholics who reject the teaching of the Church and support candidates that support abortion.

Another item to look at, who are Obama's supporters ? With his islamic background, look at Louis Farrakan for one. Also look at the islamic dictators of the world who they are rotting for. Obama needs to be sent home !
36 posted on 10/22/2008 3:51:10 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: OpusatFR

Man, restore the draft and watch the “followers” turn on this guy.


37 posted on 10/22/2008 3:52:58 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Crystal Cove

My grandson was seriously involved with a really nice, pretty, and funny young lady who joined Americorps to get the money for college. She was sent to Arizona for two years. She came back radicalized, and a LESBIAN!

Don’t tell me that Americorps does not indoctrinate.

You are some kind of troll.


38 posted on 10/22/2008 3:53:24 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama on Ayers: "He's just a guy in my neighborhood." LIAR!!!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

More Gov expansion.

“Applying for Federal Positions”

If you serve in AmeriCorps*VISTA, your experience can help you get hired by the federal government. When you satisfactorily complete one full year of AmeriCorps*VISTA service, you earn non-competitive eligibility for federal government jobs. This means that a federal government hiring official may hire you without having to compete with the general public provided that you meet the minimum qualifications for the job.


39 posted on 10/22/2008 3:57:34 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

While 0bama worries me a lot, I don’t think this is possible. For him to force labor on the people or institute a politically motivated “draft” would result in open revolt.


40 posted on 10/22/2008 3:58:23 PM PDT by txjeep
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