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(Vanity) A Way to Stop Voter Fraud?
me | 10/22/08 | me

Posted on 10/22/2008 6:52:30 AM PDT by thefactor

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If it's a waste of bandwith, delete it. Just a thought. Why not? I posted a picture above, but i am not sure if it came through. My work computer doesn't like to show pics.
1 posted on 10/22/2008 6:52:30 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: thefactor

It’s racist.


2 posted on 10/22/2008 6:54:33 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: thefactor

We could hack off a pinkie finger at the first knuckle. It would be effective and would likely only need to be done once.


3 posted on 10/22/2008 6:57:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: thefactor

I thought the same thing 4 years ago.


4 posted on 10/22/2008 6:58:10 AM PDT by Gvl_M3
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Early/absentee voting.

What we really need---Jimmy Carter to monitor voting.

5 posted on 10/22/2008 6:58:49 AM PDT by lonestar
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oh what isn't racist in this day and age?

just like everything gives you cancer, everything is racist.

it was racist in iraq, too?

6 posted on 10/22/2008 6:59:40 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact i DID only read the excerpt.)
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Well, what’s to keep Barney from voting multiple times?


7 posted on 10/22/2008 7:01:08 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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thought about that, but it really is a small percentage of voters.

election day will be the big push. i can see vans full of people going from polling place to polling place.

8 posted on 10/22/2008 7:01:08 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact i DID only read the excerpt.)
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How Voter Fraud in Philadelphia Affect Us All

By 2banana

According to CNN, Bush lost Pennsylvania to Kerry by 144,248 votes (out of more than 5.7 million cast - a razor thin margin that was even closer than the “too close to call” Ohio vote).

Also according to CNN, Kerry received about 542,000 votes and Bush received about 130,000 votes in Philadelphia (or a ratio of 4.16 for Kerry).

Now, for the really interesting numbers. According to the recent US Census, the Population of Philadelphia that is of voting age is 1,105,066. This number includes people who by law can not vote (non-American citizens, felons, out of state college students, etc.). In 2004, there were 1,035,395 registered voters in Philadelphia, up 34,000 from 2001.

So, what does this mean?

First, even as Philadelphia looses population, the number of registered voters continues to increase, year after year. Today, in Philadelphia, nearly 100% of every person of voting age must registered to vote (as compared to a national average of 60% by the Census Bureau). Consider, since 1995, Philadelphia’s voter rolls have jumped 24 percent while at the same time that the city’s population has declined by 13 percent.

Second, the total lopsidedness of the 4.16 ratio is an absolutely astounding number - even heavily democratic Broward Country, FL (one of the only places Gore wanted recounted in 2000) only went for Kerry 2:1 and Cook County, IL (Chicago - THE definition of the democrat voting machine) only went for Kerry 2.5:1.

Either Philadelphia has the most engaged and civic population in the history of the World, or there is massive voter fraud.

And the amount of fraud easily exceeds the margin of loss of President Bush. For instance, if the registration was above average and if Philadelphia was just your “average-democrat-rustbelt-city-union-stronghold with a 50 year democrat political machine,” the vote for Kerry in Philadelphia would have been just over 350,000. The voter fraud in Philadelphia is worth about 150,000 votes - a deficit that any Republican running for statewide office must overcome with real votes.

But is this “real” fraud or is it one of the easily predicted “unintended consequences” of the Clinton Motor-Voter Law? A few nights before the 2004 presidential election, Chris Matthews, Howard Fineman, Andrea Mitchell and the Mayor of Philadelphia (John Street) were on Hardball. They were all laughing away about how the election was great for the economy of Philadelphia, and suggesting that there would plenty of “street money” around to “get out the vote.” And these are the same people who are going to stop or report any kind of voter fraud?

I find it ironic that a country like Afghanistan (where I had combat tour of duty), with no history of democracy, has a country wide and nearly fraud free election under the oversight of us - Americans. But we instituted a few rules like - you had to prove you are an Afghan, you had to get a voter ID, show the voter ID when you voted, your name had to match the voter roll, and you had to get your thumb stamped by permanent ink so you couldn’t vote twice.

Maybe, one day, in Philadelphia, we will have free and fair elections with a minimum of fraud on the level of the recent vote in Afghanistan.


9 posted on 10/22/2008 7:01:54 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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ha. how about after he votes for the first time, the people at that polling place beat him to death with their shoes while singing that stupid freakin song. that should stop him from voting again.


10 posted on 10/22/2008 7:03:03 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact i DID only read the excerpt.)
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To: thefactor

Sign me up for that!


11 posted on 10/22/2008 7:04:38 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: thefactor

A simple way

- All registrations end 45 days before election
- Absentee ballots must be mailed 45 days before election
- No early voting. One day only
- State/Fed. ID required for each registrant
- Ink applied to fingers


12 posted on 10/22/2008 7:09:17 AM PDT by PGR88
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A simple way

- All registrations end 45 days before election
- Absentee ballots must be mailed 45 days before election
- No early voting. One day only
- State/Fed. ID required for each registrant
- Ink applied to fingers

I agree, except that absentee voting should be even more restrictive. ONLY the military and government contractors working overseas should be able to place an absentee ballot.

13 posted on 10/22/2008 7:24:05 AM PDT by Terabitten (Brotherhood. Unity. Leadership. Loyalty. Service. Sacrifice. Honor. Duty.)
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But is this “real” fraud or is it one of the easily predicted “unintended consequences” of the Clinton Motor-Voter Law?

Educate me. How does Motor Voter encourage vote fraud? My understanding is that it simply enables voter registration at the DMV at the same time that you update your driver's liscense address. Obviously I'm missing something.

14 posted on 10/22/2008 7:25:53 AM PDT by Terabitten (Brotherhood. Unity. Leadership. Loyalty. Service. Sacrifice. Honor. Duty.)
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To: thefactor

15 posted on 10/22/2008 7:26:26 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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What about biometric voting and a national fingerprint database. That would allow each user to only vote once and you could vote any polling place and have you vote count only in the district that you were registered. Imagine all the productivity we would save


16 posted on 10/22/2008 7:29:42 AM PDT by Swingj (Link to Islip in Newsday)
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To: Terabitten

Agree with the above, and also the register rolls need to be wiped after every election. Registration happens before every election. A registrant must prove identity when registering, i.e. photo ID and proof of residency, and recieve a one use voter card, surrendered at the polling place. This card should have an encrypted code that’s read at the polling place to verify match.


17 posted on 10/22/2008 7:33:56 AM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: Terabitten
Educate me. How does Motor Voter encourage vote fraud? My understanding is that it simply enables voter registration at the DMV at the same time that you update your driver's liscense address. Obviously I'm missing something.

Let me give you an example. Nearly all of the 9-11 terrorists were in this country illegally. Most of them had multiple drivers licenses from different states. Some had more than 1 dozen drivers licenses.

So because of this law, these illegal (terrorists) could vote multiple times in different states. And you can vote by mail.

Now multiply by the millions illegals, felons, etc.

18 posted on 10/22/2008 7:39:31 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Is it legal to take pictures of people in the vicinity of the polls on election day? Or would this fall under voter intimidation? I would love to get on record buses and vans unloading fraudulent voters going from poll to poll
19 posted on 10/22/2008 7:54:46 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup ( To that, the crowd struck up the chant “We want pie! We want pie!”)
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It would have to be purple. All the green ink is gone due to printing more money for various bailouts and giveaways.


20 posted on 10/22/2008 10:21:30 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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