Posted on 10/20/2008 10:09:18 AM PDT by spaced
THE EVIDENCE IS HERE: This document contains over 60 pages of evidence and analysis proving Barack Obama’s use of a little-known and highly deceptive and manipulative form of “hack” hypnosis on millions of unaware Americans, and reveals what only a few psychologists and hypnosis/NLP experts know.
Barack Obama’s speeches contain the hypnosis techniques of Dr. Milton Erickson, M.D. who developed a form of “conversational” hypnosis that could be hidden in seemingly normal speech and used on patients without their knowledge for therapy purposes. Obama’s speeches intentionally contain: Trance Inductions - Hypnotic Anchoring - Pacing and Leading - Pacing, Distraction and Utilization - Critical Factor Bypass - Stacking Language Patterns - Preprogrammed Response Adaptation - Linking Statements/ Causality Bridges - Secondary Hidden Meanings/Imbedded - Emotion Transfer - Non-Dominant Hemisphere Programming
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Thanks for bringing everyone’s attention to this. It really needs mass circulation - the best way way to do this would be a viral You Tube video showing OB in different postures/modes using these techniques. It would have to be done very cleverly to show what is really going on. Make it so obvious and scientifically credible that an average viewer can understand what OB is doing. We don’t want it dismissed as the work of a lunatic fringe group.
Any Freepers with video editing skills up for the challenge?
I once worked with a guy who was a magician/”mentalist” and we had a business together doing hypnosis classes and large seminars for weight loss and smoking, among others. This was about the time that NLP had just started to be publicized. He spent a lot of time researching and learning voice/communication techniques and he incorporated NLP principles into his program. This was also around or after the time that “subliminal persuasion” techniques had been “exposed”.
He would watch the teevee evangelists (like those now on TBN), motivational speakers and politicians, and analyze their voice techniques. He called it “voice rolling” and he could do it extremely well. In front of a large group of people, he could get almost all of them sincerely believing in whatever it was he was talking about. All critical reasoning faculties were bypassed using those techniques. To them, he was just a “wonderful speaker” and motivationalist. They loved to listen to him.
It was really interesting to watch him turn on his “voice rolling” when he got up in front of a group. I’ve since watched numerous preachers and speakers and politicians and can instantly recognize their “voice rolling”. It really turns me off, as I know that anyone utilizing it is probably not doing it for anyone’s benefit other than their own, and they certainly aren’t doing it naturally. They have spent a lot of time learning the techniques - or they have speech writers and voice coaches who assist them in adopting it.
Watch any old film of Hitler’s speeches. You don’t even have to understand German to hear his use of this technique- the rhythms, pacing, cadences, repetitions, pauses. Jesse Jacka$$ immediately jumps to mind also. Zerobama sounds scarily like them when I listen to him making a pre-scripted speech. The technique won’t work in question/answer formats or in simple conversational exchanges, but any great orator learns and incorporates these techniques into their speech patterns when they are addressing groups of people.
You refused to be hypnotized. All hypnosis is self-hypnosis and is purely voluntary.
I imagine the techniques could be used for evil easy enough...
Not if you don't want to participate or be hypnotized.
Pinging for later. I have a friend whose a Psych major who I’m trying to convince to not vote of Obama and this might just convince him.
... “but any great orator learns and incorporates these techniques into their speech patterns when they are addressing groups of people.”
I suspect many of the great orators of history have used these techniques naturally — without really realizing they were using them.
On another note, I once read an interesting article purporting that the Koran was written in such a way — very poetic — as to have a hypnotic effect upon the reader.
Thank you for your input on this interesting and, I believe, consequential subject.
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That's true. Though I was thinking more of a crowd situation where people didn't know it was happening. If you go to hear someone speak, you probably already have an interest in them, and so would be easily swayed.
As children, my brother and I used to listen to Radio Havana Cuba ... Castro’s ranting and raving had the same character. We thought at the time that if Hitler had been Spanish, that’s what he would have sounded like.
That is very interesting! What is “voice rolling”? Does it have to do with inflection up and down?
This reminds me of Daniel 8:23, talking about the antichrist:
New American Standard Bible
In the latter period of their rule, When the transgressors have run their course, A king will arise, Insolent and skilled in intrigue.
King James Bible
And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
New International Version
In the latter part of their reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a stern-faced king, a master of intrigue, will arise.
Yes, and a lot more. It has to do with the rhythms, pacing, cadences, repetitions, pauses, words used, inflections, pronunciations, emphasis - all of that. It's not usually something one just automatically does. It has to be worked on, practiced and perfected to be good at it. That's why whenever I hear anyone doing it, I know that they are probably up to no good. You don't need it unless you're trying to sway the people listening.
One example my partner always used [making fun of the teevee evangeli$t$ asking for money] was:
[phony deep south accent, very rhythmic]"Bruthaaaaas aaaand Sistaaaaaaahs.[pause]
Retch deeeeeeeeeep into your pock-ets... I say, retch deeeeeeeeeep into your pock-ets...
and continue on, saying not to pull out those coins, that small change, but to pull out the bills, the paper money. It's been a long time ago and I can't really do it or give a good example, but all you have to do is turn on TBN on Sunday and listen to the charismatics working up the congregation during their sermon. Or listen to Jesse Jack@$$ speaking before a large crowd. Or Al $harpton. Or just listen to the Revruuuuunnnnnd Wright "damning America" and preaching BLT. You will certainly recognize "voice rolling" when you hear it. Jesse has the voice rolling down pat 110%! Wright does too.
TOO ALL:
After a deeper review of this article I’m a bit on edge.
I remember his speech in Germany where Obama seemed to be running for ‘President of the world’ more than President of the united States.
I think about the possibility that millions of people may have commands that are now embedded in their subconscious, waiting to be activated, Pavlov style.
Couple this with the knowledge that he is NOT working alone and has millions of dolors that could be spent on technology... technology designed to enhance the power of his commands directed to the subconscious minds of his unsuspecting subjects.
When he said to McCain a few weeks back “You don’t know what you’re messing with” I believe it was more than just bravado.
I now firmly believe that there is a grand plan and it involves mind-control on a mass level.
The power he is after (and those behind him) may far transcend the Presidency.
This guy could end up making Hitler look like a piker, in comparison.
Is the above scenario Science or Science-fiction?
With all the strange stuff we know or, more correctly, don’t know, about the man from Kenya — nothing about Obama would surprise me.
What is your opinion?
STE=Q
TYPO: TOO ALL = TO ALL
TYPO: dolors = dollars
That wiki page links magick to Ross Jeffries and that is what Aleister Crowley practiced. Another poster noted that the 0 logo is a stylized Order of the Golden Dawn symbol. Aleister Crowley was once a member of the OGD and I think the phrase “Yes we can” is just another way of saying “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.”
Anything is possible. I could imagine it. I hope it doesn’t happen, but if it does I guess I will not be surprised. God have mercy on us!
Can people who realize O is using these techniques be influenced by the techniques? Should we turn off the TV every time O appears in order to protect ourselves?
I saw an ad on TV where he is in a classroom, and he uses the thumb/forefinger hand gesture a few times. Yikes!
“Can people who realize O is using these techniques be influenced by the techniques?”
I think it’s better to know what he is doing.
I saw him give a strong suggestion today.
Obama appeared and danced on the Ellen DeGeneres’ Show, where he made the comment:
‘Michelle may be a better dancer, but I am convinced I am a better dancer than John McCain,’
Why would Obama say this in view of the fact that — because of McCain’s war disabilities and age — almost EVERYONE is a better dancer than McCain is?
He most certainly was NOT joking when he made this statement (with an angry face and a finger in the air!)
And why would ANYONE say something so off the wall? (he also used a stern authoritarian voice )
The answer is Obama wanted to deliver a subliminal message
Here is how Obama said it from an NLP perspective:
‘Michelle MAY be a better dancer (Pace: of course she MAY be a better dancer than he) but I am convinced (Obama’s FINGER points UPWARD as he makes a STERN face ) I am a better dancer than John McCain (the lead)
Note: When Obama points UP as he says ‘I’ he is identifying himself with God (the man upstairs as we say) making the impact of himself as an authority even MORE powerful(subconsciously)than ordinary finger wagging.
At face it seems that he is stating the obvious, namely, that he is a better dancer than McCain.
Of course he is a better dancer!
But why would he have to be ‘convinced’ — or anyone else — that he is a better dancer?
He would not… nor would WE!
The embedded message in our subconscious is:
I am convinced that Obama is BETTER THAN JOHN McCAIN (’dancer is deleted.)
It was strange seeing this short snippet on the news and realizing that I was one of the few people realizing what this guy was doing and how easily he can deceive the unwary using the science of NLP.
STE=Q
Your spirit recognizes evil, as does mine. I cannot bear to even look at this guy, let alone listen to his rambling nothings.
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