Stealing a Presidency - Ohio Style [Vanity]

My paranoid mind | 10/10/08 | Slings and Arrows

[Slings and Arrows]

The below nightmare scenario has been bouncing around my brain for a couple of days, and I was hoping that other FReepers could critique it:

Ohio has 20 electoral votes. McCain gets 250-259 electoral votes without Ohio; i.e., enough that if he takes Ohio he wins, and if loses Ohio, or nobody gets Ohio's electoral votes, he loses.

Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner is a partisan Dem who has been doing everything in her power to run interference for Obama. Let's say that Ohio goes for McCain, and Brunner, for some non-reason, refuses to certify the vote. Ohio's electoral votes are lost, and Obama wins with a majority of the remaining electoral votes. (Brunner's not worried about impeachment because she knows she'll get a plum job in an Obama administration.)

My questions are, 1) Is this scenario feasible, and 2) If so, what can be done?

[Slings and Arrows]

Flame-retardant suit ON.

[cvq3842]

I believe a candidate needs 270 votes outright to win.

BUT, if neither candidate gets 270 votes, the House decides, with each state casting one vote. this would be the NEW House elected in November, deciding in January. So Obama would win.

The Senate chooses the VP, with one vote each. Cheney (who would still be president of the Senate in early Janyary, even though new senators would already have been seated) would break any tie. Although it’s hard to see how Palin wins there, it’s theoretically possible that somehow we get Obama and Palin in office - although extremely unlikely.

I will take a flame-retardant suit also, as I have thought about this too. Also, if one House and one Senate member challenge a state’s slate, then the Congress votes somehow. It’s theoretically possible that the Dems could give the presidency to Obama even with a clear McCain electoral win, as you suggest.

The “law,” if they choose to manufacture some defect in the vote, is on their side. Unless the public threatens an open revolt, they could do it.

I wish you were blowing smoke. You’re not.

[mmichaels1970]

I don’t think Brunner will be in office by election day.

[Slings and Arrows]

From your mouth to G-d’s ears. But why?

[Slings and Arrows]

Thank you for the analysis. Barring a McCain landslide, I suspect that the dirty tricks are far from over.

[cvq3842]

Sad, but true.

[mmichaels1970]

From your mouth to G-d’s ears. But why?

The SOS office is flooded with complaints. All voice mail boxes are full. People are calling the offices that happen to be located next to hers. Or those whos numbers appear next to hers in the state phone directory.

People are getting frustrated with the lack of response from the SOS office, so they are now calling the Governor directly.

A spokesman was on the local radio stationWTAM 1100 for an interview with talk show host Bob Frantz. The conversation ended with a dial tone as the spokesman hung up and ran for cover. It is the second such phone call from different reps for the SOS. The link I provided has a good audio clip of the host's latest "rant" (see "Fraud? What Fraud?!?"). I'm hoping he posts the actual audio of the phone call itself soon.

During the interview, Frantz had the SOS rep listen to audio of Brunner saying on Greta that the accusations of fraud were just speculation and conjecture. That there was no evidence of voter fraud. He then played audio of a lady who admitted to registering multiple times with different ACORN agents. She lost count of how many voter registration cards she'd filled out. She said she saw one ACORN rep following another and re-registering people right behind him. The SOS rep hung up right during the audio.

He coupled that with an interview with an actual ACORN rep who said she is telling everybody to vote Obama (so much for non-partisan)..

A professed democrat called and said that he was approached in the grocery store by an ACORN rep. When he told him he was a democrat and was already registered for 17 years, the ACORN rep told him that he could register many more times as long as he didn't register with the same polling location.

Granted, this is a conservative talk show host and there is a fight to still be had. But the fight to have her removed has definitely begun. The recent Marc Dann resignation was partly a result of the same type of outrage I'm seeing today. Once it started, Dann was out pretty quick.

I'm only making a prediction based on what I'm observing here on the outskirts of Cleveland. I may be wrong.

[Slings and Arrows]

I hope you’re right. This woman is a traitor to the Constitution.

[mmichaels1970]

I hope you’re right. This woman is a traitor to the Constitution.

If I'm right, post a vanity saying what a genius I am. If I'm wrong, please quietly disregard my post....deal?

[Slings and Arrows]

LOL! Deal.

[mmichaels1970]

Here's a link to FIRST interview where the SOS Spokesman hung up on the air:

Ohio Secretary of State Spokesman Hangs Up On Live Radio.