Serious Questions about both Sarah Palin and John McCain

me | 10/03/08 | johnthebaptistmoore

[johnthebaptistmoore]

While I will truly vote for them on November 4, I truly still have some serious questions about both John McCain and Sarah Palin: When is John McCain truly going to "wake up politically" and stop behaving just like how Bob Dole did in 1996 during too much of his own run for the Presidency? What exactly is Sarah Palin's own views on both illegal immigration and full border security? How can John McCain truly be for national security, if he's truly also for granting amnesty for illegal immigrants throughout the entire U.S. (The same question also deserves to be asked of both Barack Obama and Joe Biden.)? How can John McCain truly be for both cutting taxes and be a pro-business Presidential candidate, if McCain truly has a very long political record of voting against tax cuts as well as fully supporting "green legislation", which includes many tax increases, much "red tape", and more business regulations-all combined which will truly hurt many people and many businesses for the long-term? How can McCain truly be for free speech, if he truly helped in creating the latest and ongoing "campaign finance reform" legislation, which is truly against free speech and so truly also very unconstitutional throughout? How can a President McCain truly succeed in getting any to all truly conservative judicial candidates approved to any to all judicial vacancies at the federal level by the next U.S. Senate, if the next U.S. Senate is truly still full of a "leftist majority" from both major political parties? How can a majority of leftists in both Houses of the next Congress truly not succeed in making a President McCain really become either a "closet Democrat", a "wussy politician", or a "political puppet" without that much power overall for the next four years? How can a President McCain be successfully encouraged to truly become a conservative politician on all of the issues instead of truly still being a maverick politician on all of the issues? How can a President McCain truly succeed in keeping his temper in check throughout his entire duration as the next President? Where are the still much needed "political coattails" that a McCain/Palin ticket should be truly using "to the max" in order to successfully help other conservatives and help other Republicans truly win their political races at each and every level? How can John McCain truly be for conservative principles and against pork barrel spending, and against all other kinds of "political goodies", when McCain truly supports the socialistic government bailout legislation, which is also now full of pork barrel spending programs as well as full of other "political goodies"?

[samtheman]

Man50D is an idiot. I don’t think you’re going to get through to him.

I’ve been raging against the wimpy campaign that Senator McCain has been running for weeks now. But I know the difference between a true American and a true traitor when I see one.

McCain is the true American in this race, for all his faults.

He’s going to lose, because he puts Bipartisanship first, above his country, above his need to win this election. But that doesn’t make him un-American.

Obama is un-American.

[Man50D]

When are people going to wake up to the fact that Man50D keeps posting the same puerile, repetitive bullsh!t everytime the he spots the name 'John McCain'?

There's no BS about these McCain facts.

John McCain's Whimsical World of Conservatism
Food for thought for the Hillary Clinton Wing of the GOP

1982/00/00 McCain enters Congress, with his family accepts first of nine trips some aboard Keating's leer jet, three of which include stayovers at Keating's Caribbean resort (goes unreported for up to 7 years)
1983/09/28 McCain joins 26 other Republicans to vote with the Majority Party Congressional Democrats to demand U.S. Troops exit Lebanon, winds up on the losing
” 1983/09/28 Cindy McCain and her father invest $359,100 in a Charles Keating strip mall
1987/00/00 McCain has received $112,000 by this time for Congressional and Senate campaigns, from Charles Keating, his relatives, and his employees, the largest amount to any Keating 5 member
1988/02/11 McCain votes to affirm Anthony Kennedy as a justice for the SCOTUS
1993/10/10 McCain co-sponsors an unsuccessful bill to cut off funding of United States troops in Somalia
1993/08/10 McCain joins the Democrats and most Republicans voting to confirm Ruth Bader Ginsberg, the worst justice on the court today. Three Republicans vote Nay.
1993/01/13 McCain and Kerry release the Select Committee report urging the MIA issue be put to rest so that Vietnam could be granted normalized relations with the U.S., over objections by MIA family and veterans groups. Video1 Video2 ( I do not endorse all of the information presented in video1 here. The video does touch on a number of topics, and I think most are germane ) If I could have found video that contained most of this information without touching on McCain's POW experience I would have posted it instead. Still, there are parts of McCain's POW experience that are troubling. I'd just rather not go there. Video2 shows how one MIA family rep is treated, confirming some of the reports in Video1.
1994/07/24 McCain joins with the Democrats to confirm nominee Stephen Breyer to be an Associate Justice on the SCOTUS. Nine Senators voted Nay...
1997/00/00 McCain leads the opposition to the Coats Amendment, preventing government funded fetal tissue research ( derived from "a legal act" [abortion] ) Amendment defeated!
1999/08/19 McCain stated, ""Certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade,"
John McCain: George Soros' Useful Idiot? McCain joins Democrat Russ Feingold to introduce Campaign Finance Reform, an effort funded by George Soros Article
2000/00/00 McCain was the keynote speaker at the ultra-liberal Philadelphia convention sponsored by George Soros while John F. Kerry keynoted at another Soros event on the same day...
2000/11/20 McCain participates in the production of a gun control spot for Oregon's Proposition Five. (Circa this date, prior to the November election.) Article
2001/00/00 McCain founded the Reform Institute funded by George Soros
2001/05/15 McCain introduces the Gun Show Loophole bill S890, with Carper, Lieberman, DeWine, Clinton, and Schumer co/sponsoring Analysis
2003/03/19 McCain joins Democrats to vote against drilling in ANWR
2003/10/30 McCain joins Lieberman again, this time to introduce the Climate Stewardship Act (Gorebal worming et al) Thomas Bill S139
2004/06/04 McCain signs letter with 58 Senators, "We write to urge you to expand the current federal policy concerning embryonic stem cell research."
2004/08/05 McCain announces he deplores the Swift Boat adds against Senator John Kerry, and asks the White House to refute them
2005/00/00 McCain resigns from the Reform Institute he founded with Communist billionaire George Soros
2005/01/28 McCain declares, "I want us in the ICC (International Criminal Court)", but I would like to see more safeguards first.
2005/05/12 McCain joins Ted Kennedy to introduce McCain/Kennedy immigration legislation that would wind up making illegal immigrants citizens.
2006/04/28 McCain states, "I would rather have a clean government than one where quote First Amendment rights are being respected that has become corrupt."
2006/09/06 McCain joins Dole to write op-ed for the Washington Post, states in part, "We should publicly remind Khartoum that the International Criminal Court has jurisdiction to prosecute war crimes..."
2007/02/17 McCain states he will close Guantanamo Bay terrorist detainment center on his first day in office video (same as date link on the left)
2007/03/22 McCain gets the pledged support of Chuck and Sue Cobb, Jeb Bush's Florida Director of the Free Trade of the Americas Agreement effort
2007/06/00 McCain joins Baldwin, Shays and Meehan to file an amicus brief against the Wisconsin Right to Life organization brief The wrong side of a pro-life issue, helping pro-abort Feingold
2007/06/18 McCains Gitmo problem, close the base, grant Geneva Convention status, stop water boarding...
2007/10/25 McCain still wants us to sign the L.O.S.T. treaty in time, but does have concerns over sovereignty issues.
2008/03/00 McCain makes his first attempt to tell a state (North Carolina) Republican Party what to do. The RNC joins him.
2008/03/24 McCain hires Meg Whiteman to cochair his Presidential campaign. Whiteman is another wishy washy at best Independent, who has donated to leftist candidates and still doesn't have a clue what side to come down on with regard to illegal immigration. She is leaning toward running for Governor in California and being courted by it's Republican leadership. Links to CalCowGirl's comments regarding Whiteman's donations. Article above.
2008/03/26 McCains speech to the World Affairs Council, Europe may get veto power over some of our foreign policy...
2008/04/08 McCain casts last Senate vote during his Presidential Campaign. By the EOBD 06/24/08, he has missed 367 votes or 61.4% of the Senate votes in the 110th Congress. His last vote before the one he cast on April 8 was cast on 03/14/08. Link
2008/05/09 McCains interview with O'Reilly... I won't drill in ANWR... it's pretty... I'm an environmentalist.

2008/05/12 McCain Joins the Goreball Worming Cult, sounding more like Al Gore every day... McCain's Oregon add Video
2008/05/13 2008/05/13 McCain takes an Environmental walk, with the leader of the Cascade Land Conservancy
2008/05/15 2008/05/15 McCain states he will appoint Democrats to his administration, during a Republican teleconference and during a Columbus stump speech
2008/05/27 McCain announces support for severe cutbacks on our nuclear weapons, withdrawing battlefield nukes from Europe and giving our nuclear waste to an international body
2008/06/04 McCain states, "I disagreed strongly with the Bush administration's mismanagement of the war in Iraq."
2008/06/14 McCain tells Clinton supporters they should back him because he voted for Ginsberg and Breyer Said this to Conservatives on 2008/05/07
2008/06/21 It is announced McCain and Obama will address open borders group in Los Angeles on July 18th, 2008, Communists and worst of U.S. Illegal Alien apologist groups...

2008/06/21 McCain and team realize he has so little credibility on judicial appointments, that they announce he will let Fred Thompson vet his judges. That's 06/21/08's version of truth...
2008/06/28 McCain declares, "I will make comprehensive immigration reform my “top priority,” during my first 100 days in office. He assures Latino leaders that they will have an ally in the White House.

[autumnraine]

Double spacing between sentences. It is your friend.

[autumnraine]

You said it. We all KNOW what McCain is about, but have accepted it and Palin is our “spoon full of sugar”.

[Man50D]

So instead of standing up to Obama, you will, by inaction, stand aside and effectively help the **worst** candidate into office?

Please show me where I stated I will do nothing.

If the “big news” is that McCain is a socialist, we were all over that. Last summer.

Then it should have made an impression by now voting for McCain only advances the socialist cause at the expense of conservatism.

We get it. We know. We understand. Yeah, we really do know.

If you did then you wouldn't be supporting a socialist simply because he has an R after his name.

[NautiNurse]

I truly still have some serious questions about some FReepers: When is johnthebaptistmoore truly going to “wake up” and stop posting long threads without multiple paragraphs? What exactly is johnthebaptistmoore’s own views on one long vanity with a single paragraph in a thread? How can johnthebaptistmoore truly be for national security, if he’s truly also for posting whining threads (The same question also deserves to be asked of both Barack Obama and Joe Biden.)? How can johnthebaptistmoore truly be for both cutting taxes and be a pro-business Presidential candidate, if johnthebaptistmoore truly has a rather short record of writing vanities which will truly hurt many people’s eyes and many ruin reading pleasure for the long-term? How can johnthebaptistmoore truly be for free speech, if he truly helped in creating the latest and ongoing “campaign downer” thread, which is truly against grass roots campaigning and so truly also very depressing throughout? How can a johnthebaptistmoore truly succeed in getting any to all Freepers to him, if the next vanity is truly still full of a “defeatest attitude” from beginning to end? How can a majority of leftists in the blogosphere truly not succeed in using johnthebaptistmoore to really become either a “closet Democrat”, a “wussy politician”, or a “political puppet” with all of the written condenscention in this tome? How can johnthebaptistmoore be successfully encouraged to truly become an active grass roots campaigner on the issues instead of truly still being a complainer on all of the issues? How can johnthebaptistmoore truly succeed in keeping his temper in check throughout his entire duration of the next month? Where are the still much needed “political coattails” that a johnthebaptistmoore should be truly using “to the max” in order to successfully help other conservatives and help other Republicans truly win their political races at each and every level? How can johnthebaptistmoore truly be for conservative principles and against pork barrel spending, and against all other kinds of “political goodies”, when johnthebaptistmoore supports writing asinine vanities like this, which is also now full of liberal ammo as well as full of other “political goodies” to be used by the dark side?

[Nailbiter]

Rose colored glasses come to mind when I see Man50D posting.
I should just let it pass, but I am tired, been long night and his post irked me.

We will see what happens in November, remember USA has weathered storms in past and come out stronger than before.

Mayhap hardtimes are a coming, but might just be what rids us of liberals and communists for good.

[RetSignman]

Truly.

[TheWasteLand]

Socialist. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[samtheman]

When Obama wins, and right now it’s looking like he will, we won’t be ridding ourselves of liberals for a generation, or more.

He’s going to appoint supreme court justices who will legalize voter fraud.

He’s going to outlaw conservative speech.

He’s going to institute political indoctrination in the classroom.

As bad as you can imagine it, that’s how bad it’s going to be.

It won’t really be the USA anymore. We’re going to become a different kind of country, one in which conservatives will probably be tolerated but most likely have to watch our step.

I don’t think very many people have an idea how bad this is.

Certainly John “Mr. Bipartisanship” McCain doesn’t. He’s giving this thing away.

[NautiNurse]

You have posted your McCain hit list on multiple threads. When does it become spamming? Oh...and if you are going to spam threads with this info, you really should make sure all of your links are in good working order. I found multiple non-functioning links. You have some work to do.

[6SJ7]

The economy must be so bad, even paragraph returns are in short supply.

[Nailbiter]

I have have read research that has been posted about Obama.

I believe that if he gets in office it will be worse than anything any of us can imagine.

There are still weeks to go to the election.

John is honorable, that because of his past and the present political climate is unable to fight Obama’s minions.
But fate or God( my personal opinion) gave JM the wisdom to pick Sarah Palin.

I believe that she is making impression on American people.
I believe this because MSM is becoming more virulent in attacking her and her family.
She justs lets it go by which infuriates the MSM.

Which causes Obama and his minions to attack her all the more.

Obama is attacking a woman that is running bottom of the ticket. Obama should be fighting McCain not Sarah.

In school yard vernacular, Obama and Biden are getting their clocks cleaned by a girl.

Which I say McCain should put out as an ad.

I have faith in America, times were rough before, they will be rough again.
But we get knocked down we come back..

I also am waiting for either Obama or Biden to step on their collective wankers, because they think they have this election in the bag.

Arrogant elitist that they are, they are almost assuredly going to do or say something incredibly stupid.

Remember OBama and his “clinging to guns and religion”remark
give him time and he will make another

[Tax-chick]

Oh, spare us this shi’ite. You haven’t expressed a single original thought.

I suggest you have a large whiskey, and then go work for a candidate for mayor, or governor, or State Senate, or Town Council. Or just sit in a lawn chair in your driveway and have another whiskey, if you can’t stop quivering and snivelling.

[samtheman]

It’s not enough, nailbiter. It’s not enough. Remember, Obama has the media on his side. A few gaffes on his part will mean nothing.

McCain has to fight to win.

McCain isn’t fighting.

McCain is going to lose.

[Tax-chick]

I also am waiting for either Obama or Biden to step on their collective wankers

That's an interesting array of subject, verb, adjective, and object number-confusion. However, it's not really an image I needed this early in the day ... made me think of some reptiles that have two ...

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Ii don’t think it’s that simple. I tend very strongly towards a grown up form of libertarianism. In my view McCain is flat out vastly preferrable to Obama. Not even close.

I’d love to see someone with the instincts of Milton Friedman become president, but that ain’t gonna happen. Especially since the XIXth Amendment.

[Nailbiter]

I will be careful more careful in future. :)

[Nailbiter]

We will need to disagree at this time. If after election this board still exists (Nobama lost). Then we can comgratulate McCain and Palin.

If the worst happens, we can perhaps figure out which country will accept conservatives, certainly will not be this one.