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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
No matter what the Sun does, for a normal or larger El Nino event, the year in which it happens will set a new annual temperature record in the global instrumental temperature compilation which begins in the 1880s. It could happen without an El Nino. I've predicted many times already that this will happen in one of the following years: 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, or 2013.

When (notice I did not say "if") that happens, there will no longer be any particular talk about a cooling trend. The only problem I see now is that as the next solar cycle revs up and the sunspot numbers increase -- as they will very likely do over the next 5-6 years -- and then there is a new global temperature record in that period, climate change skeptics will blame it on the Sun. Timing is everything.

42 posted on 10/02/2008 6:13:48 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator

Thank you!

(More later, the dentist calls....)


44 posted on 10/02/2008 6:24:24 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: cogitator

For the models to be right, the temperatures need to rise very fast (not just barely break records) in the years ahead.

The models are predicting a rise of 2.0C per century (while we have only seen 0.7C over 1.3 centuries so far.) The temperature increase is less than half of the trend predicted by the models.

Hansen’s 1988 predictions (Scenario B) is now off by 0.5C (or 65%).

It is not barely breaking records once in awhile that determines whether global warming is a significant problem, temps must increase by the projected 3.0C per doubling of GHGs to have that significant effect. So far, we are only halfway to the trend that is required to produce the 3.0C per doubling impact.

If the models are off by a factor of two, then warming will hardly be a problem at all - the most temps will ever increase is 1.5C to 2.0C over centuries which is not likely to be a big problem. I hope you see my point.


55 posted on 10/04/2008 5:03:30 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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