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Fateful Day -- A picture of a thermopolium in Pompeii, where garum was served as a fast food. [Rossella Lorenzi]
Fish Sauce Used to Date Pompeii Eruption

1 posted on 09/30/2008 4:30:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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By coincidence, I'm going offline to continue reading a book about Herculaneum. :')

I have a video somewhere, showing a researcher talking about this garum discovery; he remarks that the samples still have a mild fish smell to them. :') Nice that this research verifies the date of the eruption -- since it's the only surviving eyewitness account, and if memory serves, the *only* surviving account from antiquity of any volcanic eruption per se (the Periplus of Hanno merely records the eruption of Mount Cameroon, without saying what it was).

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2 posted on 09/30/2008 4:34:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Why are they using fish entrails to date something that was firmly recorded by the Romans at the time?


3 posted on 09/30/2008 4:34:43 PM PDT by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wonder if the counter help was any better then?


7 posted on 09/30/2008 4:50:52 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: SunkenCiv

Prik num bah!

Excellent with kau phad gai!


8 posted on 09/30/2008 4:53:19 PM PDT by null and void (Good advice is something a man gives when he is too old to set a bad example.-F. de La Rochefoucauld)
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To: SunkenCiv

Used in copious quantities by the ancient Melaminians.

9 posted on 09/30/2008 4:56:11 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: SunkenCiv

If I were there I'd probably have made a "potty" joke...

11 posted on 09/30/2008 5:31:51 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: SunkenCiv
Very interesting article.

I have a book called The Classical Cookbook, by Andrew Dalby *pops to Amazon.com*. Wonderful recipes from the ancient world.

As for fish sauce (iirc, also known as liquamen in Rome) I use Squid Brand *pops*, which I was told is more "fishy" and possibly more like the Roman type than some of the others used in Asian cooking.

Here is a Roman recipe for a pear dessert using fish sauce that I found somewhere on the 'net. There are many sites with Roman recipes, if anyone is interested.

PATINA DE PIRIS (Pear Souffle)

(Apic. 4, 2, 35)

Ingredients:
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1kg pears (peeled and without core)
6 eggs
4 tblsp honey
100ml Passum
a little bit oil
50ml Liquamen, or 1/4 tsp salt
1/2 tsp ground cumin
ground pepper to taste

Instructions:
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Mix cooked, peeled, and mashed pears (without core) together with pepper,cumin,honey, Passum, Liquamen and a bit of oil. Add eggs and put into a casserole. Cook approximately 30 minutes on small to moderate heat.
Serve with pepper sprinkled on the finished souffle.

12 posted on 09/30/2008 5:49:38 PM PDT by mountainbunny ("I've got a plan so cunning you could stick a tail on it and call it a weasel!" Blackadder)
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To: SunkenCiv

This was not a fast food. This was a sauce, the ancestor, in fact, of our Worcestershire sauce. There are those who argue the idea Worcestershire sauce came from India with the British Raj. I think it is a little of both, because some ingredients seem to be Indian, and the fermented fish is definitely Roman.


14 posted on 10/01/2008 6:24:35 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Actually, I believe garum was a sauce, not a fast food in itself as described in the picture. That’s rather like comparing “pico de gallo sauce” with a food item such as a taco. Or registering ketchup as a vegetable.

On the other hand, I’m wondering if this delectable sauce of rotting fish entrails was similar to Muoc Nam, a hot Vietnamese sauce with a similar provenance of rotting fish.

Muoc Nam usually has to be served to Westerners in a VERY low-grade version. I once saw a restaurant in San Antonio emptied out of lunching round-eyes when the real McCoy was served in a an adjoining private dining room about 60 feet away.

Yum yum to exotic foods.


15 posted on 10/01/2008 6:52:01 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow, really great pic, the condition of the find is amazing. Shame so many died so that almost 2000 years later we could see how they lived.


16 posted on 10/01/2008 8:12:12 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: SunkenCiv

I remember watching a documentary several years ago in which they analyzed garum from a chemical perspective, in an attempt to find out just why it was so highly prized as a sauce/seasoning. Turned out it was loaded with MSG, a natural flavor enhancer. In other words, it made everything taste better, and the Romans used it just like we use MSG.


18 posted on 10/01/2015 4:13:56 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: SunkenCiv

I probably wouldn’t get many dates if I ate too much of that fish sauce.


19 posted on 10/01/2015 4:16:44 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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