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To: Ilya Mourometz
Wasn't there a special aired recently which showed sick cows being cruelly dragged to the slaughter ... stuff like that.

Yes I agree. I think the animals should be treated better, and yes I also agree that it is probably an evil being perpetuated.

Boy are we going to get pummeled.

27 posted on 09/11/2008 9:48:29 PM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.stopsidsnow.com)
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To: diamond6

Well, there are some jerks here, like every site. But I think most people here are decent and, if they would at least consider the horrible treatment of farm animals in an intensive or factory farm setting, I think they’d be equally repelled. Mostly, though, people prefer not to know about how the food on their table got there. I have great respect for true farmers that at least allow their animals to see the light of day or room to walk about (simple kindnesses that the vast majority of chickens, pigs, and cows in the US are denied). Intensive farming may well be one of modern man’s greatest sins—even Pope Benedict XVI has spoken out against the evils of factory farms.

Scully had an article published a couple years ago in Buchanan’s National Review—for that alone I will have respect for Buchanan, though I disagree on many other things. It took a lot of character for Buchanan to publish a pro-animal piece and I believe it even got the cover. I’ll try to find it and post it here.


30 posted on 09/11/2008 10:15:21 PM PDT by Ilya Mourometz
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To: diamond6; Ilya Mourometz
Wasn't there a special aired recently which showed sick cows being cruelly dragged to the slaughter ... stuff like that. Yes I agree. I think the animals should be treated better, and yes I also agree that it is probably an evil being perpetuated. Boy are we going to get pummeled.

Yep, you are probably going to get pummeled for saying that. Although I should add that it would be an honor to get pummeled along with you ....I love meat, I think humans are omnivores and thus meat has always been part of their diet (certain scientific studies show that human brain mass took a leap when our pre-human ancestors shifted to an omnivore diet from a vegetarian one), and I adore sitting down to a pepper steak with mashed potatoes and onion rings. However, that doesn't mean that the animal that died to provide me with the meat for that pepper steak has to be treated like crap.

I actually have a video on my laptop that shows people in China (I use the term 'people' very loosely) taking some type of raccoon-dog and skinning them for their fur. The thing is that they are skinning them while they are still alive, and then afterward throw the skinless animal (still alive) into a heap with others where they slowly die. (Note: when I say skinning i do not mean shearing ....like you shear the wool of a ship. I mean literally skinning the poor b@$tards ....removal of skin). The way they do it is they make incisions on the back legs and down the belly, and then strip the skin off like you would pull a sweater over your head. Those things are yelping like crazy (to prevent them from biting they are slammed onto the ground or jumped on several times).

Now, I know those guys want to make a living. I understand that. However, why not just put the animals out of their misery first. Kill the thing, and then skin it. It even appears that would be much easier (I know in my rural area when we skin the animal is long dead by then).

We may have dominion over animals, but that does not mean we should skin animals alive just to see them hop around (they were doing the skinning in front of some cages that housed other raccoon-dogs, which were seeing everything that was happening. Those caged animals were going bananas due to the sight and the smell). Hey, if people want to wear fur that is alright. Just kill the d@mn animals first.

33 posted on 09/11/2008 10:44:08 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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