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Radio Free NJ - Buying a First Shotgun ^ | T. Costell

Posted on 09/10/2008 3:49:23 AM PDT by sig226

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To: Yo-Yo

Post #4 works better in my Taurus Judge than 410 shells. The wad from the 410 shells can jam in the pistol sometimes. The CCI shells fire cleaner.


21 posted on 09/10/2008 5:10:30 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Vote McWhatshisname and PALIN)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar

Most of the “evidence” is anecdotal. Personally I would not want to give my position away by unnecessarily “racking” the pump, or lose tactical advantage by not having a round chambered and ready to go. That said I keep a Mossberg 590A1 in my truck, but for home defense I have two strategically located H&K Benelli M1 Super 90’s. All are loaded with #1 Buck, which I find works better than 00 in defensive situations, and all have rounds chambered and ready to go.


22 posted on 09/10/2008 5:11:16 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
FR Shotgunners, front and center! (Don't look at me -- my only shotgun has rifle sights; kinda lets you know where I come from... $;-)

I agree 100% with Shooter 2.5's comments about racking the scattergun to scare away intruders -- that's TV-tactics. In real life, being trained by TV will get you dead.

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23 posted on 09/10/2008 5:18:54 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
Chased this one once and came to the conclusion that is pretty much urban legend. While there are a few well documented stories about someone racking a pump and having a bad guy flee I suspect that the sound of a 9mm being cycled would of had the same effect on said bad guy.
24 posted on 09/10/2008 5:22:31 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Well as the author I can assure you thst I'm still very much alive in spite of my lack of knowledge.

The piece was about choosing the right tool for the right job, not about home defense combat tactics. As I said in the piece I've never been in a circumstance where I needed to defend myself in my home.

I would welcome the opportunity to learn from others more knowledgeable than myself and invite them to author something themselves so all of us can benefit from their knowledge.

25 posted on 09/10/2008 5:25:42 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: sig226

Thanks for the ping, I am still learning more about various types of guns. I do prefer the Mossberg, I have also used in a home defense (years back). I prefer the warning(click clack) it gives to the offender.


26 posted on 09/10/2008 5:26:02 AM PDT by navygal (retired navy and proud of it.)
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To: sig226
Good article. My scatterguns start with an original Win 97 Trench Broom and end with a nice Browning in 28 for dove/quail. Since I don't do much wing shooting anymore, the 28 works when the call comes for field work. My emphasis is on defensive shotguns.

The Marines issue the M590A1, which is all-steel, rather than the commercial 590 with the polymer trigger package. The M590A1 has a remarkable reliability record. Mossberg sold the Marine issue on an production overrun a few years back, and I didn't get one ordered in time. I'm not much for the recent Mossbergs, I have fixed too many of them, BUT the older Moss are excellent shotguns at reasonable prices.

The Remington 870 is probably the most sold shotgun in either defensive or field configurations. I have a had a couple of these and the reliability is awesome.

27 posted on 09/10/2008 5:27:00 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Palin has run a state, city, and a business. NObama has only run his mouth.)
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To: tcostell
Thanks for the article.

I have a specific use question. We just moved out into the Hill Country of Texas and last week I noticed a family of wild hogs running along our north ridge. Not exactly the most friendly neighbors, you know.

What is the best weapon to have on hand should I run into one of these? I've gotten differing opinions and after reading your article, I would like to have yours.

28 posted on 09/10/2008 5:27:35 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Obviously, liberals can't handle a strong, independent woman.)
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To: tcostell
In my mind, Remington is really the gun by which all others are measured.

Agree. My 870 is great for pheasants with the 30" barrel. The short iron sighted barrel with a rifled choke puts slugs in the black at 100 yds and patterns buckshot well at 25 or so yds. With the plug out I have 5 shots. Replace the plug and change to an extra full choke and it is a handy turkey gun.

Thanks for the article.

29 posted on 09/10/2008 5:28:36 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: sig226
This page has a video of Clint Smith from Thunder Ranch discussing the home defense shotgun. It's pretty interesting. If you get a chance you might want to watch the other two videos, too. The one on clearing a malfunctioning weapon is very informative.

Thunder Ranch Free Video

30 posted on 09/10/2008 5:29:02 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: tcostell; hiredhand; Squantos; NFHale
while racking a pump gun may drive away the 'honest' BG, it is a loss of cover/initiative to the hard core thug...

that said, Id imagine a few bladders have emptied on the way back to the entrypoint upon the sound of chambering a round...

31 posted on 09/10/2008 5:31:52 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: sig226
My "Tactical Bird Gun" ;)

I'm not a big clays shooter, but the looks I get when I do is part of the fun (yes, I can hit with it).

32 posted on 09/10/2008 5:33:34 AM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: TexasNative2000

If they are the Texas wild hogs I’m thinking about you’ll need something pretty stout. They have a layer of gristle that covers their vitals, and I’ve found that nothing less than a .44MAG will penetrate sufficiently. I’d go for a nice lever action carbine in “at least” that caliber. A lever is light, and will give you quick follow-up shots while taming the recoil of the stouter rounds. While you’re at it get a good cookbook too. Wild hog is pretty good eating.


33 posted on 09/10/2008 5:35:04 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot
#1 Buck, which I find works better than 00 in defensive situations, and all have rounds chambered and ready to go.

two things Sir...

I keep #4 in the defender, opinions on shotsize???

I used to keep it loaded and locked, but figured the spring would ultimately get fatigued...or do you alternate the twins and give em 'off' days ???

34 posted on 09/10/2008 5:37:47 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Joe Brower
I agree 100% with Shooter 2.5's comments about racking the scattergun to scare away intruders -- that's TV-tactics. In real life, being trained by TV will get you dead.

I agree with both of you. If someone enters your house knowing that you're home and possibly armed, they will probably be prepared to return fire. If you rack the slide on your shotgun you've told them where you are and how you're armed and given away most of your advantages. Worst case scenario is that they immediately start blasting away in the general direction of the sound and kill everyone in the house.

35 posted on 09/10/2008 5:40:39 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: hiredhand; Squantos; NFHale

oopsie, meant to get opinions from you gents as well...


36 posted on 09/10/2008 5:44:33 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
"racking (sp?) a pump shotgun will drive an intruder away."

I'd rather be chambered and ready than to do the TV/movie drama of not even being prepared.

37 posted on 09/10/2008 5:45:32 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: sig226
If you read gun magazines it’s hard to find a reviewer who has too many bad things to say about any type of gun. That’s because the manufacturers give them the guns to review for free, and they’d like to remain in their good graces.

Ain't that the truth!

38 posted on 09/10/2008 5:46:43 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Gilbo_3
I keep #4 in the defender, opinions on shotsize???

I bought some 00 tactical buckshot. It's has less recoil than standard buckshot and is easier to get the second round off in a hurry. A lot of police forces are using it because it does a great job with less chance of penetrating walls.

39 posted on 09/10/2008 5:48:52 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: bmwcyle

I didn’t know that the Taurus could chamber .45ACP with half moon clips. There’s enough relief between the back of the cylinder and the frame?


40 posted on 09/10/2008 5:49:25 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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