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FR Gun Club - House guns
8/25/08

Posted on 08/25/2008 3:58:21 AM PDT by sig226

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To: 300winmag

couple houses in detroit? so that’s a $100 gun? :P


21 posted on 08/25/2008 7:57:19 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: sig226

http://www.hollandandholland.com/~newyork/index.htm

h&h guns. very nice.


22 posted on 08/25/2008 7:58:36 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: MHGinTN
I’m in the process of switching to .357 for revolver and a lever action rifle for ‘house guns’ using the same ammo.

Good plan.

23 posted on 08/25/2008 8:00:48 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Joe 6-pack

Ever met a “caveman”?


24 posted on 08/25/2008 8:11:46 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: B4Ranch
"Ever met a “caveman”?

Troglodyte has a much nicer ring to it ;-)

25 posted on 08/25/2008 8:31:32 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: sig226
At $11,000 each, the new semiauto versions of the German WWII FG42 are at least the cost of a good cabin, if not a full-sized house. And that's also pretty close to what an H&K PSG-1 costs, so one cased in either hand would indeed be a couple of pricy handfulls for such no-frills shooters. I suppose someone out there will have one engraved, but I can't really see it.

The new price of the semi automatic FG42 is $10,000.00 plus 10% federal excise tax plus shipping and insurance to the buyers FFL holder.

I've always thought that custom engraving was more fitting on handguns, though I've never owned one meself. The closest I've ever come, or care to come again, is the nice look of a Renaissance Browning Hi-Power.


26 posted on 08/25/2008 9:06:35 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Joe 6-pack; B4Ranch
"Ever met a “caveman”?

Troglodyte has a much nicer ring to it ;-)

Let's take the average caveman, at home, listening to his stereo....

27 posted on 08/25/2008 9:10:49 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy; Joe 6-pack

“Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, Bertha Butt.”

LOL


28 posted on 08/25/2008 9:25:24 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: archy

Why spend that much on a PSG-1, which fires 7.62, when you can spend less and get a Barrett, which fires .50?


29 posted on 08/25/2008 9:35:57 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: wastedyears
Why spend that much on a PSG-1, which fires 7.62, when you can spend less and get a Barrett, which fires .50?

If you want to kill a truck, or a fuel tank, or a satellite dish antenna at 1500 meters, yep, the Barrett is indeed the better choice. But if you want a better than 50% probability of hitting the truck driver, or the tech hooking up the antenna at the same range, and you have to carry your own rifle, and your ammo, and your food and water, and maybe a radio and some other useful novelties, the PSG-1 might be the way to go.

And certainly there are other semiauto sniper and target rifles that shoot as well or nearly as well as the PSG-1, some costing much less. But whether they will remain capable of that same level of accuracy after a thousand rounds, or 3000, or 5000 is something else again.

I know of three very capable and qualified shooters who have their choice of equipment, anything in the world, and they took PSG-1s as their semiauto. And I've known one of them since 1998, and though he shoots around a thousand a year through it, last year it still shot as well as it did ten years and circa 10,000 rounds ago.

30 posted on 08/25/2008 11:01:33 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy

Well that sounds like a trustworthy piece to have. What about the SR-25? If I had any choice of long-range semi-auto, that would probably be it, if only because it’s used by the SEALs.


31 posted on 08/25/2008 3:17:51 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: 300winmag

I know one guy who actually bought one of those things. It was a Lapua, too. We all looked at that little muzzle brake and even though it weighed 16 pounds, no thank you.

Have fun. :)


32 posted on 08/25/2008 5:47:04 PM PDT by sig226 (Obama '08 - No, You Can't.)
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To: sig226
We all looked at that little muzzle brake and even though it weighed 16 pounds, no thank you.

I have a Winchester 1886 in 45-90. It has the traditional curved "rifle butt", known even in those days as a "pain intensifier". Shot a lot of 500 gr cast bullets through it.

The welt on my shoulder, and the partial paralysis, only lasted a couple of days.

33 posted on 08/25/2008 6:30:33 PM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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To: Joe 6-pack
"guardian of the foundation."

Ahh.. I like that. A touch of class in and amongst the roomsfull of $100 rifles.

34 posted on 08/25/2008 6:59:26 PM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: wastedyears
Well that sounds like a trustworthy piece to have. What about the SR-25? If I had any choice of long-range semi-auto, that would probably be it, if only because it’s used by the SEALs.

They have a great many novelties in their toybox, and the SR-25 is certainly one that was very highly thought of in that community. Lately, seems to be the big item on their want lists....

35 posted on 08/27/2008 9:37:41 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy

http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg41-e.htm

Beats the Mark 48 in rounds per minute.


36 posted on 08/27/2008 1:38:28 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: archy

Not quite a thousand yard rifle, but pretty damned close.

L

37 posted on 08/27/2008 1:49:51 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: wastedyears
http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg41-e.htm

Beats the Mark 48 in rounds per minute.

Just so. But it's not in 7,62 x 52mm NATO.

The equivalent Stoner gun would be the Stoner 62 LMG, which never reached large-scale production or adoption.

38 posted on 08/27/2008 2:49:17 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: sig226

Wish I had such a collection. I keep a basic Remington Express 12 Gauge within reach at all times at my place. Still deciding whether I should switch to 00 shot over the 1 shot I keep handy.


39 posted on 08/27/2008 2:54:20 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Lurker; Squantos
http://bp1.blogger.com/_Rbf_wKnsQ-c/R0iOHmC9VhI/AAAAAAAAAA8/4Nj6iZ16Bb4/S660/My+M1-A1.jpg

Not quite a thousand yard rifle, but pretty damned close.

L

The 7.62 NATO can do the job out to a thousand meters pretty well, and it looks like you've got enough glass on top to be able to see what you're doing out that far.

I once was out with a commanding officer of mine who had been snookered into a bet with a British Royal Marine veteran of the Falklands War who favoured the British L42A1, essentially a WWII #4 Lee-Enfield rebarrelled to 7,62 and topped with a 4x scope. The bet was on a leaky 5-gallon Jerrycan on the 1000 meter line: for every hit the Brit made my boss owed him a dollar; for every miss the Brit would pay him two.

Thirty-six dollars in the hole later, my boss called it quits. Two misses out of forty tries made it pretty clear that the RM shooter had things pretty well dialed in. And that was with the British 144-grain L2A1 ball ammo, not match loads.

With 175grain M118LR or Black Hills equivalent, you ought to be able to do about as well....

40 posted on 08/27/2008 3:02:40 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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