Posted on 08/16/2008 10:08:41 AM PDT by Issaquahking
The child who was attacked by a pit bull this week remained hospitalized in critical condition as her father was making his way home from Iraq to be with her late this week, according to the girl's family.
The fate of 6-year-old Isis Krieger, in critical care(snip)
"They're still giving her all her fluids and she's been twitching and stuff like that," said Wanda Injasoulian, Isis' great-grandmother. "Her little heart's beating really good, so there's no telling...(snip) The attack by Dozer on Tuesday at Isis' East Anchorage home was not the dog's first, but it was the worst --
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That’s what I was going to suggest—the Dog Whisperer. Isn’t he out in CA? Maybe CaliforniaCon can contact him and be on his show.
There is a huge difference between some ill informed, “know it all” teenagers criticizing their peer’s improper and illegal use of inhalants, and an educated adult dog owner recognizing the signs of other dog owners who are irresponsible with their animals. I’m sorry you can’t discern the difference. And, for the record, I never say “never”. I do; however, take precautions so that no person nor my animals are ever put into a situation which may be dangerous to either. Really there is no comparison to what I’ve stated with what you overheard from some kids.
There is a huge difference between some ill informed, “know it all” teenagers criticizing their peer’s improper and illegal use of inhalants, and an educated adult dog owner recognizing the signs of other dog owners who are irresponsible with their animals. I’m sorry you can’t discern the difference. And, for the record, I never say “never”. I do; however, take precautions so that no person nor my animals are ever put into a situation which may be dangerous to either. Really there is no comparison to what I’ve stated with what you overheard from some kids.
Again, another case of irresponsible dog owners. I’m sorry for all of the dogs whose owners are like the folks you mention.
I would not keep an aggressive dog. Period.
I think a lot of people mistake aggression for protection. You don’t need your dog to protect you from friends or family. If your dog is protecting you from friends and family.... That’s aggression.
A protective dog will be able to recognize danger, an aggressive dog will react to anything. It is showing it’s dominance over you, just like guarding a bone.
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I have 7 mastiffs, they weigh around 200+ lbs each, and I completely trust my dogs temperaments. However, if one of them showed any signs of aggression in a non danger setting, even so much as a little growl, that dog would be out of my house within minutes.
I believe you can train and control an aggressive dog, but you can never completely trust it. That is not a chance I would take with my kids or friends.
Very well and truthfully said.
The dog is already 2 years old, with a strong and willful urge to give chase to anything that moves - enough to yank you off your feet and prove a challenge to your boyfriend. On top of that, she has aggression issues, unable to perceive between an actual threat and just your average stupid human trick. You’re having to weigh the viability of keeping her ensconced on the property and only being walked on a leash by a male because you can’t handle her.
That’s fine, I guess, provided you have homeowner’s insurance and can control the environment around her. What happens when a kid ignores you and her Mommie and toddles up to pet the doggie who, cornered on a leash or in your home, resists in the most natural way for her to do?
Hopefully the trainer can accomplish miracles for both of you. Having no experience with a pro, I hope he will be honest with you if it turns out that you and this dog are a bad match for each other.
I owned one occasional nipper - a collie who would bite out of fear, causing no lasting damage - but she displayed no aggression like what you’re talking about. She was a lot more likely to tuck tail and cringe away from scary things, and I suspected she’d give her life for my Mom, which was fine.
I hardly know what to tell you about your dog’s aggression, because frankly I’d already have asserted my mastery within an inch of the dog’s life, if that’s what it took. I’ve had to floss fur out of my teeth correcting doggie-style, LOL.
Only you can answer those questions. Not everyone has the personality to care for a dominant dog, and there's nothing wrong with that. Keeping a dog you can't control is a terrible idea, though. It's not fair to you, and it may result in tragedy. I was attacked by a Spuds Mackenziee dog when I was six or seven. He was kept inside, in a controlled environment. He jumped me in front of a housefull of adults, with no provocation. I think I was the second or third person he had bitten.
Once you've done everything you can, exhausted all your options, sometimes you just have to realize that it's not going to work. It sucks and it flies in the face of modern pet training theory, but it happens. If that's the case you may have to rehome or surrender her and open your home to a dog that better matches your lifestyle.
I’m so sorry your Dukie is gone now. It sounds like you had a loving and dedicated companion for 10 years.
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If things don’t work out with a training expert perhaps a sanctuary like Best Friends will take her. BF took several Vick dogs and have already adopted them out after intense training and rehab.
You might try the 7/8 OEM and 1/8 Anatolian American Mastiff Dogs bred at
I have one, they are beautful, protective, gentle, love children, smart, and quiet.
I own pits myself, and it pisses me off to no end when I hear stories like this. These things are preventable. I would bet everything I own that this animal was never trained properly, nor was he socialized properly, and most likely was never supervised properly. Sadly, another child suffers for the stupidity of the adults who were supposed to protect her. Owning a powerful breed of dog requires preparation, knowledge of the breed, and diligent training and supervision of the animal. I just don't understand why people think they can get a pit and it will be a good guard dog without training, socialization, and supervision. Without these, it's just another undisciplined animal that won't guard, but instead will attack anyone without provocation. Any breed acquired for a secutirty dog still needs proper training, socialization, and supervision.
I see many differences between these two paragraphs. I'm sorry you can't see any reason the second paragraph would remind me of the first.
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That an adult advocating responsible dog ownership and some teenagers bemoaning their friend's negligent drug use is even compared astounds me.
No, that’s teenagers pretending that with proper training dangerous drugs cease to be dangerous drugs, and an adult pretending that with proper training unpredictable and potentially dangerous pit bulls cease to be unpredictable and potentially dangerous pit bulls.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt. Pit bulls are pit bulls, no matter how egotistical their owners are.
That’s just pure unadulterated and stereotypical BS.
Yeah, just because pit bulls have a history of violently attacking without provocation is no reason to believe that pit bulls have a history of violently attacking without provocation.
Okay. Ping me to the next article you find about a Shih Tzu mauling a child.
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