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Vista's Security Rendered Completely Useless
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| kdawson
Posted on 08/08/2008 9:25:43 AM PDT by Clint Williams
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To: rdb3; Golden Eagle
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:26:32 AM PDT
by
Clint Williams
(Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | Impeach Obama!)
To: Clint Williams
If you read the comments at Slashdot, there is almost uniform skepticism. The consensus is that the author of the piece does not understand the subject matter well.
To: BillCompton
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:35:14 AM PDT
by
Knitebane
(Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
To: Clint Williams
Is Vista going to turn out to be the lemon that Millenium was? I thought it was supposed to be made better with patches by this summer. Everyone I know that has it hates it.
To: Knitebane
The problem is simple.
DO NOT make a browser an integral part of an operating system.
If you do, you lose.
Period.
Internet Explorer in ALL forms is fouled up, was fouled up from the get-go and remains fouled up to this day.
Obviously nothing is perfect, but hard coding the browser into the OS was wrong from the start.
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:40:34 AM PDT
by
Rick.Donaldson
(http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
To: Stephanie32
I use Vista, haven't really had any problems yet -- kinda like it, but that's just me. But I think you're right, I see it going the way of ME.
I'll wait for Windows 7.
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:42:26 AM PDT
by
cdbull23
(What's going on in my brain? Check it out: www.cainsbrain.com)
To: Rick.Donaldson
Obviously nothing is perfect, but hard coding the browser into the OS was wrong from the start. It depends on what your goals are.
If your goal is a flexible, functional, secure OS then you are correct.
If your goal is to lock Netscape out of the browser market by bundling your products together, then Microsoft was correct to do it.
After all, it worked didn't it?
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:43:55 AM PDT
by
Knitebane
(Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
To: Clint Williams
Great because I don’t use vista.
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:45:40 AM PDT
by
calex59
To: Rick.Donaldson
Microsoft was trying to kill all competition by integrating everything.
At one point they argued SOLITARE was integral!
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:48:18 AM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: cdbull23
I'll wait for Windows 7. What makes you think Windows 7 will be any better?
Oh, they've promised all sorts of stuff. But then they promised all sorts of stuff with Vista too. And dropped most of it before it shipped.
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:48:34 AM PDT
by
Knitebane
(Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
To: Rick.Donaldson
hard coding the browser into the OS was wrong from the start. Wrong from a security standpoint, sure, but that wasn't the point. The point was to get a court to agree that the browser wasn't just a bundled add-on that could be made optional, but part of the operating system.
For the longest time that was a successful strategy for keeping third-party web browsers like Netscape in the tank. But now IE sucks so badly compared to, oh, Firefox, that its monopoly is slipping away even with IE as part of the operating system. Let's call it "cosmic justice." Now the very 'feature' that Microsoft crafted to kill the other browsers may turn around and kill IE.
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:49:19 AM PDT
by
Nick Danger
(www.swiftvets.com)
To: cdbull23
“I use Vista, kind of like it.”
That’s good, you are probably very proficient and know the ins and outs of how to work with it. Was there just service pack one released yet or is there going to be a service pack two?
To: Clint Williams
You are coming to a sad realization. Cancel or allow?
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:54:21 AM PDT
by
Mediocrates
(Teens don't 'need' to know 40 year-old music. Boomers need to get over the Beatles et al.)
To: Knitebane
actually it is an upgrade issue.
The XP is fine to run current software.
I expect by Windows 7, the software will need just that much more upgrade to take advantage of the better hardware.
Think of someone using windows 95 tring to use software that is designed for current hardware.
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:54:36 AM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: Knitebane
Not quite.
Here are more details on the problem.
The paper, which certainly has a impressive pedigree, tells a very different story than that told in the article. Heck, the authors conclude that the problem should be fixed soon. The article makes it sound like the problem can't even be fixed.
To: Knitebane
Got me, I use Firefox. LOL I don’t use IE at all, with the noted exception of HAVING to use it to do windows updates.
But on my other machines? Nope, it’s removed because I don’t use MS any more on them
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:55:13 AM PDT
by
Rick.Donaldson
(http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
To: Nick Danger
I like “Karma” as in “Microsoft, your dogma just got run over by my Karma” kinda karma. LOL
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:56:30 AM PDT
by
Rick.Donaldson
(http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
To: Clint Williams
Gee, just as I was thinking of building a new computer with new mob and quad core CPU and maybe using Vista 64 bit, along comes this bad news.
Currently using XP Pro 32 bit and wanting to switch to 64 bit for the ability to use more than 4 gigs of RAM, but being concerned about the rumored lack of drivers, etc. for it,....... What’s a geek to do?
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posted on
08/08/2008 9:58:32 AM PDT
by
garyhope
(It's world war IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam. VRWC. TWP.)
To: Swordmaker
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posted on
08/08/2008 10:00:18 AM PDT
by
TheBattman
(Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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