[NFHale]

Diggler:

Aside from the fact that the Second Amendment IS my “carry permit”...(I’ll let that one alone - for now (Ha!))...

...Discretion IS the better option in areas such as PapaBear3625 mentioned above. Remember - the enemy still controls the law to one degree or another (for now) in many places (especially Philly - Chief Thugramsey is a real tool, and Mayor Thugnutter is a fascist A**hole).

You can argue rights this and rights that all you want, but if you’re sitting in a jail cell, it gets you exactly ZERO. You can be more effecitve out here, recruiting as many “carriers” as you can.

Make it a goal - introduce at least TEN people to shooting, take them to the range, etc., (especially kids, if possible). Then you become TEN TIMES as effective. And you piss in the gun-grabbers faces by multiplying OUR numbers. A noble goal, to say the least....

Once you wake people up to their right to PROTECT THEIR OWN LIFE, you empower them to BE Citizens - probably for the first time in their lives, they’ll come to understand just exactly what Liberty is, and why it’s worth fighting for, and more importantly - WHO the REAL enemy is.

I’ve carried open in PA at times too, with little harrassment; but I’ve decided to fight for THAT particular hill another day.

Stay safe brother, and stay in the fight. We need every street soldier we’ve got, and sitting in jail doesn’t accomplish the mission...

[hiredhand]

Your point about kids is especially true....they "hook" into shooting and no matter how leftward their families are, they just don't forget it easily! Weapons are the mark of a free man, and inwardly all men know this! It's a sad and confused man who goes about in this world unarmed, especially here in America!

Stay safe! :-)

[hiredhand]

Before everybody digresses into pettiness about holster and handgun choice, this should be reviewed...REGULARLY. Mark Moritz' rules of gunfighting. :-)

1. Have a gun.
   
   1. Preferably, have at least two guns.
   2. Bring all of your friends who have guns.
   
   
2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive.
   
   1. "Why did you shoot only once? There's no additional paperwork for shooting someone twice!" -- Firearms Instructor P.O.J.D., MOS debriefing after a shooting.
   2. Bring ammo.
      
      1. The right ammo.
      2. Lots of it.
   
   
3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.
   
4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly.
   
5. Proximity negates skill. Distance is your friend. (Lateral and diagonal movement are preferred.)
   
6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a long gun… and a friend with a long gun.
   
7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
   
8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading and running.
   
9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun. Use a gun that works every time. "All skill is in vain when an Angel pisses in the flintlock of your musket."
   
10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.
    
11. Always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
    
    1. If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly."

This is the law:

• The purpose of fighting is to win.
• There is no possible victory in defense.
• The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either.
• The final weapon is the brain.
• All else is supplemental.

- John Steinbeck (courtesy of Ken Campbell)

12. Have a plan.
    
    1. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work.
    
    
13. Use cover or concealment as much as possible.
    
14. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect your own flank.
    
15. Don't drop your guard.
    
16. Always perform a tactical reload and then threat scan 360 degrees.
    
17. Watch their hands. Hands kill. (In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them.)
    
18. Decide to be aggressive enough, quickly enough.
    
19. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.
    
20. Be polite. Be professional. But… have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
    
21. Be courteous to everyone. Friendly to no one.
    
22. Your number one option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.
    
23. Do not attend a gun fight with a handgun whose caliber does not start with a "4."
    
    1. Nothing handheld is a reliable stopper.
    
    
24. Carry the same gun in the same place all the time.

[Diggler]

Understood, but what I’m saying is that when I need to be concerned about ‘concealed’ versus ‘printing’, I am. No one will see my sidearm. But 99% of the places I go in any given year, I don’t have to worry about it as much so I don’t. I don’t live near, nor go to areas where I have to worry about people like those in charge in Philly. We’re pretty gun-friendly around here.

[Das Outsider]

You can argue rights this and rights that all you want, but if you’re sitting in a jail cell, it gets you exactly ZERO. You can be more effecitve out here, recruiting as many “carriers” as you can.

And you can look into your state's concealed carry laws, as most states in the Union either have provisions for concealed carry permits or acknowledge out of state permits via Full Faith and Credit.