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Unknown Writing System Uncovered On Ancient Olmec Tablet
scienceagogo ^ | 15 September 2006 | by Kate Melville

Posted on 07/30/2008 6:58:45 PM PDT by Fred Nerks

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To: Fred Nerks
I bet Al Gore invented that style of writing. That was right before he invented the Internet.
21 posted on 07/30/2008 7:36:26 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Fred Nerks

That looks like the standard Air Force UXO Identification Card!


22 posted on 07/30/2008 7:43:14 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: editor-surveyor

It’s probably a catalog of taxes paid or owed. That is how writing was invented, to record taxes. Tax collecting is likely the second oldest profession.

I blieve most of the Linear B (Greek) sources are lists of commodities owed/collected as taxes, plus lists of officer assignments, eg, coast watchers, governors, etc. I do not believe any literary texts have been discovered on Linear B tablets.


23 posted on 07/30/2008 7:49:19 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: FFranco

Wasn’t it linear B that hasn’t been deciphered yet? Could be wrong, but one of the early Greek scripts to my knowledge (which is very amateur grade) has never been decoded.


24 posted on 07/30/2008 7:57:43 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: TruthConquers

Linear B was deciphered by Michael Ventris and John Chadwick in the early 1950s. It is apparently an archaic Greek language written in Minoan (Linear A) syllabic script. As far as I know, Linear A has not yet been deciphered.


25 posted on 07/30/2008 8:20:27 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Fred Nerks
The Olmecs are a mysterious culture, to say the least. We know so little about them. Where they came from is a mystery; where they went is a mystery. We don't even know their name, Olmec is just a name we assigned to them.
26 posted on 07/30/2008 8:32:42 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Fred Nerks; blam; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

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Thanks Fred Nerks.

Wow, thanks. Nothing previously on FR that turned up in a search. Here's a link to an omnibus post on the Olmec-Shang stuff.

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27 posted on 07/30/2008 9:33:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Army Air Corps

Re “We are having a helluva kegger, but we need more beer and pizza.”

You forgot the most important thing in Olmec/Mayan/Aztec culture - virgins!

Not a good party without virgins to party with or sacrifice!


28 posted on 07/30/2008 10:00:53 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

You are correct! The Perfet Party Triad is food, hooch, and women.


29 posted on 07/30/2008 10:12:01 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Fred Nerks

Looks like and advertisement for hand tools to me. Sort of an early Ace Hardware ad.


30 posted on 07/30/2008 10:20:15 PM PDT by dljordan
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Cascajal block
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31 posted on 07/30/2008 10:25:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Fred Nerks; blam

Okay... this got me thinking about the recent claim that the Phaistos Disk is a fake... and I could have sworn there was a topic about it... couldn’t find it... any leads?


32 posted on 07/30/2008 10:29:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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ah...

Phaistos Disc declared as fake by scholar
The Times of London | July 12, 2008 | Dalya Alberge, Arts Correspondent
Posted on 07/30/2008 10:56:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2054126/posts


33 posted on 07/30/2008 11:02:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv
PHAISTOS DISC.

Jerome M. Eisenberg, writing in the July/August issue of the magazine Minerva, provides a compilation of the scholarly (and non-scholarly) ideas about and attempted translations of the disk, and concludes that the disk is a forgery...

...The translation compilation alone contains such entertainments, from the mystic ("Helmsman's-rhythm-beating-call of the blossoming radiant heaven's tree dweller"), to the romantic ("Blissful lady of the labyrinth, blissful Isonoia, lady of the coffins") to the political ("Hear ye Cretans! Quick, quick") to the instructional ("Enter the grove of Elaia: Ignite smoothened wood all around"), ...

Proving the Phaistos disk a fake is going to be difficult. Eisenberg points out that the purposely stamped and deliberately fired disk is unlike any other Minoan script. Those found at Knossos were drawn into soft clay and accidentally fired.

No they were not accidentally fired! They were burnt as was the custom - as gifts to the dead.

The Secrets of Crete. Knossos wasn't a palace, it was a Temple of the Dead.

34 posted on 07/30/2008 11:16:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Crete: isle of the dead?
Frontier magazine | January-February 2000 | Philip Coppens
Posted on 08/03/2006 10:11:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1677518/posts


35 posted on 07/30/2008 11:25:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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boy, sometimes *nothing* helps...

Oldest writing in the New World discovered
NewScientist.com | 14 September 2006 | Jeff Hecht
Posted on 09/14/2006 4:09:26 PM EDT by flevit
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‘Oldest’ New World writing found
BBC | September 15, 2006 | Helen Briggs
Posted on 09/14/2006 9:39:19 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1701838/posts

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36 posted on 07/30/2008 11:29:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Roots of Mesoamerican Writing
Science Magazine | December 5, 2002 | Erik Stokstad
Posted on 12/07/2002 4:54:13 AM PST by jimtorr
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/802484/posts

Secrets of old mask still hidden, duo say
Deseret Morning News | Monday, January 26, 2004 | Diane Urbani
Posted on 01/26/2004 12:55:39 PM PST by nickcarraway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065675/posts

Secrets of old mask still hidden, duo say
Deseret Morning News | Monday, January 26, 2004 | By Joe Bauman
Posted on 01/30/2004 6:44:11 AM PST by vannrox
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Script Delivery: New World writing takes disputed turn [ from 2002 ]
Science News; Vol. 162, No. 23 , p. 355 | Dec. 7, 2002 | Bruce Bower
Posted on 09/17/2006 12:51:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1703162/posts


37 posted on 07/30/2008 11:39:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: garyhope
Probably CP/M or Fortran.

It looks more like APL.

38 posted on 07/30/2008 11:43:06 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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The Olmec and the Shang
by Claire Liu
tr. by Robert Taylor
Last year, in a book entitled Origin of the Olmec Civilization, Professor Mike Xu, a Chinese who teaches in the foreign languages department at the University of Central Oklahoma, proposed a hypothesis which aroused a storm of controversy in archeological circles. In Xu's view, the first complex culture in Mesoamerica may have come into existence with the help of a group of Chinese who fled across the seas as refugees at the end of the Shang dynasty. The Olmec civilization arose around 1200 BC, which coincides with the time when King Wu of Zhou attacked and defeated King Zhou, the last Shang ruler, bringing his dynasty to a close.

39 posted on 07/30/2008 11:43:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes, looks like an inventory of some sort. Too many of the items look like they could be held in one’s hand.


40 posted on 07/31/2008 4:06:38 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Homeschooled and homeschooling.)
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