Posted on 07/29/2008 6:10:10 PM PDT by decimon
ON the afternoon of Nov. 7, 2006, pilots and airport employees at O’Hare International Airport in Chicago saw a disc-like object hovering over the tarmac for several minutes. Because nothing was tracked on radar, the Federal Aviation Administration did not investigate. Yet radar is not a reliable detector of all aircraft. Stealth planes are designed to be invisible to radar, and many radar systems filter out signals not matching the normal characteristics of aircraft. Did it really make sense to entirely ignore the observations of several witnesses?
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On Dec. 26, 1980, for instance, several witnesses at two American Air Force bases in England reported seeing a U.F.O. land. An examination of the site turned up indentations in the ground and a level of radiation in the area that was significantly higher than ordinary. More witnesses at the same base reported the U.F.O. again on subsequent nights. The deputy base commander reported that the aircraft aimed light beams into the most highly sensitive area of the base — a clear security breach.
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(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
HERE: http://frankwarren.blogspot.com/2007/09/us-astronauts-reveal-encounters-with.html
Saturday, September 08, 2007
U.S. Astronauts Reveal Encounters with Apparent
Extraterrestrials and UFOs
Edited by Peter Tremblay
The Canadian National Newspaper
9-8-07
Rumors have persisted for years that the astronauts -- nearly all of whom are military officers susceptible to being silenced under orders -- may have seen something more on the Moon than rocks and dust.
According to transcripts of the technical debriefing following the Apollo 11 mission, astronauts Armstrong, Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin and Michael Collins told of an encounter with a large cylindrical UFO even before reaching the Moon," U.S. investigative journalist and researcher Jim Marrs documents Mr. Aldrin further officially presented his encounters with apparent Extraterrestrials on CNN's Larry King Show.
Jim Marrs further presents that Mr. Aldrin said, "The first unusual thing that we saw I guess was one day out or pretty close to the Moon. It had a sizable dimension to it". Aldrin said the Apollo crew at first thought the object was the Saturn 4 booster rocket (S-IVB); but, he added, "We called the ground and were told the S-IVB was 6,000 miles away."
Mr. Aldrin described the UFO as a cylinder, while Armstrong said it was "really two rings" Two connected rings". Collins also said it appeared to be a hollow, tumbling cylinder. He added, "It was a hollow cylinder. But then you could change the focus on the sextant and it would be replaced by this open-book shape. It was really weird."
Even more strange was the experience of Mr. Aldrin and Mr. Armstrong, after they reached the Moon.
According to an Associated Press story of July 20, 1969 published in the San Bernardino Sun-Telegram, the astronauts sighted eerie lights inside a crater near the point on the Moon where their lunar lander was due to touch down the next day.
On their first sweep around the Moon, Armstrong described a mysterious bright light on the inner wall of the crater Aristarchus, located north of their flight path. "It seems to have a slight amount of florescence to it. The area in the crater is quite bright," he reported.
"That area is definitely brighter than anything else I can see. There doesn't appear to be any color involved in it. It looks like an eerie sight," confirmed Aldrin.
Two astronauts who appear to have broken ranks are Dr. Edgar Mitchell and Gordon Cooper. On The Oprah Winfrey Show on 19 July 1991, Mitchell hinted that all information regarding UFOs has not been released, saying, "I do believe that there is a lot more known about extraterrestrial investigation than is available to the public right now [and] has been for a long time... It's a long, long story. It goes back to World War II when all of that happened, and is highly classified stuff."
On Dateline NBC in 1996, Mitchell was even more candid. "I have no firsthand experience, but I have had the opportunity to meet with people from three countries who in the course of their official duties claim to have had personal firsthand encounter experiences... with Extraterrestrials," he said. Jim Marrs says that "Mitchell flatly stated that some advanced military craft use technology derived from alien spacecraft that have been collected by the U.S. Government."
Cooper, in a letter read during a 1978 meeting at the United Nations to discuss UFOs, stated, "...I believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet form other planets, which are obviously a little more advanced than we are here on Earth."
Also that year, Mr. Cooper wrote a letter to the ambassador of the Mission of Grenada to the United Nations supporting a UN initiative to study UFOs. In his letter, Cooper stated that astronauts "are very reluctant even to discuss UFOs due to the great numbers of people who have indiscriminately sold fake stories and forged documents, abusing their names and reputations without hesitation. Those few astronauts who have continued to participate in the UFO field have had to do so very cautiously. There are several of us who do believe in UFOs and who have had occasion to see a UFO on the ground, or from an airplane."
Cooper's mention of a "UFO on the ground. apparently was a reference to his own experience at Edwards Air Force Base on May 2, 1957. In 1993, Cooper gave this account of the incident: "I had a crew that was filming an installation of a precision landing system we were installing out on the dry lake bed, and they were there with stills and movies, and filmed the whole installation and they came running in to tell me that this UFO, a little saucer, had come down right over them, put down three gear, and landed about 50 yards from them, and as they proceeded to go on over to get a closer shot of it, it lifted up, put the gear in, and disappeared in a rapid rate of speed.
"And so I had to follow my directions as a military... I had to look up the regulations on who I was to call to report this, which I did, and they ordered me to immediately have the film developed, put it in a pouch, and send them by the commanding general's plane to Washington, which I did. And that was the last I've ever heard of the film."
It is interesting to note indicates Mr. Marrs that, "despite the continued protests that there is no government secrecy regarding UFOs, there is no public report on this incident. Although the event was listed in the Project Blue Book index, a full report and clear photos are suspiciously absent."
Yet Mr. Cooper, who reported the UFO landing, was selected as a Mercury astronaut only two years later. In a 1996 interview, Mr. Cooper said he discounts any conventional explanation for his experience. Asked his thoughts on UFOs, the astronaut said, "Well, I figured it was somebody coming from some distant place to visit us."
Steve Omar, another investigative journalist and researcher, indicates that J. Allen Hynek (who investigated U.F.O.s for the U.S. Air Force), Major Donald Keyhoe, Timothy Good (in his book Above Top Secret) suggest secrecy about UFOs and Extraterrestrials. One unquestionably absolute expert we may want to consult is Christopher Kraft, who was Director of the NASA tracking base in Houston during the Apollo Moon missions, when he revealed the following conversation “after” he left his work at NASA:
- ASTRONAUTS NElL ARMSTRONG and BUZZ ALDRIN speaking from the Moon: “Those are giant things. No, no, no .... this is not an optical illusion. No one is going to believe this!”
- MISSION CONTROL (HOUSTON CENTER): “What...what...what? What the hell is happening? What’s wrong with you?”
- ASTRONAUTS: “They’re here under the surface.”
- MISSION CONTROL: “What’s there? Emission interrupted... interference control calling Apollo II.”
- ASTRONAUTS: “We saw some visitors. They were there for awhile, observing the instruments.”
- MISSION CONTROL: ”Repeat your last information.”
- ASTRONAUTS: “I say that there were other spaceships. They’re lined up on the other side of the crater.”
- MISSION CONTROL: “Repeat...repeat!”
- ASTRONAUTS: “Let us sound this orbita ..... In 625 to 5... automatic relay connected... My hands are shaking so badly I can’t do anything. Film it? God, if these damned cameras have picked up anything... what then?”
- MISSION CONTROL: “Have you picked up anything?”
- ASTRONAUTS: “I didn’t have any film at hand. Three shots of the saucers or whatever they were that were ruining the film.”
- MISSION CONTROL: “Control, control here. Are you on your way? Is the uproar with the U.F.O.s. over?
- ASTRONAUTS: “They’ve landed there. There they are and they are watching us.”
- MISSION CONTROL: “The mirrors, the mirrors...have you set them up?”
> - ASTRONAUTS: “Yes, they’re in the right place. But whoever made those space ships surely can come tomorrow and remove them. Over and out.”
There is an unconfirmed report, also documented by Steve Omar, that when Buzz Aldrin opened the door after landing on the Moon, he immediately saw a transparent etherical being staring at him outside. Welcome to the Moon?? Allegedly, NASA Director Kraft added that there was a public and a secret private A.S.A. radio frequency between Moon and Mission Control and that the conversation above took place during a mysterious two minute interruption in public transmissions. To prove it is the truth, hundreds of independent CIVILIAN radio operators with powerful VHF equipment separately reported hearing the AME spaceship report from the Apollo moon-walkers!
"Soviet radio operators also picked it up and published it in Moscow. Another mysterious radio message from the Moon was broadcast on French public television only one time before it was censored AFTER it leaked out. That transmission appeared to be a mysterious clearly spoken ALIEN LANGUAGE," further reports Steve Omar.
The famous French historian and author Robbert Charroux published the transmission which has been suppressed in the U.S. It came from U.S. astronaut Worden who transmitted it to NASA, and expert linguists have been unable to translate the message.
How many 100’s of pages of the better quality reports have you read on the topic?
How many of your relatives and close Friends have worked around such and/or with folks who were in the know?
There are ways to improve one’s education.
There appears to be no cure for some attitudes and for some willful blindness.
That is . . . until events wham one up-side the head rather forcefully.
Another non-answer from . . .
HoHo Bunns
I wonder how it’s going
toward earning
the stalking certificate.
Looks like a lot of good progress is being made.
Thanks.
I usually don’t keep track of all that back and forth claims stuff with the astronauts.
There’s some evidence that some of the astronauts have been brave . . . claimed things . . . then gotten wimpy and retracted . . .
Interesting.
Thanks.
From:
http://frankwarren.blogspot.com/2005/06/brazilian-astronaut-talks-ufos.html
Friday, June 17, 2005
Brazilian Astronaut Talks UFOs
Marcos Cesar Pontes
Lt. Colonel Marcos César Pontes
By Frank Warren
6-16-05
Lt. Colonel Marcos César Pontes, the first Brazilian to attend Astronaut Training at the Johnson Space Center for NASA has recently sat down with Wendell Stein of “UFO Magazine of Brazil” for a candid interview.
Aside from the subject matter of the Magazine, Pontes discusses his meager upbringing, his dreams to become a pilot and his ongoing drive that initiated his assignment in the “Astronaut Office Space Station Operations Branch” of NASA.
Given Pontes status as the “premier astronaut of Brazil,” and his willingness to discuss UFOs with the country’s leading magazine on the subject, as well as the recent meeting with the Brazilian Air Force (FAB) and the Brazilian Committee of UFO Researchers (CBU) (on May 20th), one can only hope that this is only the beginning of an emerging pattern not only with Brazil, but with “all countries” who are withholding information regarding the UFO phenomenon.
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posted by Frank Warren at 5:23 AM
PLEASE CLICK ON THE MOON LANDER PHOTO AND SEE THE ENHANCED IMAGE SUPPOSEDLY STRAIGHT FROM NASA . . .
LOOK AT THE HORIZON . . .
http://www.adrive.com/public/d664b2b481afdcf0ae98a8ea1ee8ca0e47e8880979788394bf37e0380c40e527.html
ATS THREAD about that moon photo:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread378761/pg1
More ATS gleanings:
SOUNDS VERY FAR OUT—A HUGE SHIP TO HOVER OVER ALABAMA 14 OCT 2008???
Guess we’ll see.
. . . except for this good story and video from Oregon:
http://www.news10.net/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=45903&catid=5
Looks like just another dime-a-dozen blurry and pixilated mess. But of course the True Believers can never, but never, point to a well defined image.
Hate to burst your bubble but all those squares and shapes over the horizon is just JPEG compression damage to the photo. I see a lot of that in photos due to my field of work.
Sorry, Quix, just artifacts, no conspiracy.
I figured someone better than I at such would have a solid word to reply with.
I thought that, were it structures, it was far tooooo something.
But I’m far from an expert on that type of thing.
Calculate distance to the horizon using the diameter of the moon to figure the curvature of the Moon surface (on earth it is ~26 miles, if memory serves). The landing was in a ‘mare’ plane, so the horizon was well under the distance to the rim of the massive crater where they landed. The photo would not have been capturing anything at the rim of the crater because it was well beyond the lunar curvature horizon; objects at the crater rim would have to be miles tall to be captured on the film, and such large structures would be readily visible to even my 10 inch reflector telescope. I’ve never seen anything like that, I assure you.
I have not the slightest trouble believing you.
Thanks.
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