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16-Year-Old Dies From Motorcycle Stunts At School
cbs2.com ^ | Jul 27, 2008 10:40 am US/Pacific

Posted on 07/27/2008 12:23:29 PM PDT by BenLurkin

RIVERSIDE A 16-year-old Riverside boy doing stunts in a high school parking lot crashed his new 2008 Yamaha R1 motorcycle into a classroom building, and died a short time later, Riverside police said Sunday.

Coroner's officials identified the teen as Austin Lee Allen, 16, of Riverside.

Riverside police Sgt. Dan Reeves said the motorcycle rider was initially believed to be a student at Martin Luther King Jr. High School, where the crash was reported at 7:22 p.m. Saturday.

Witnesses said Allen was riding the Yamaha alone in a parking lot at the school, in the 9300 block of Wood Road in the south Riverside area of Woodcrest, according to police and coroner's accounts of the crash.

Allen was doing a variety of high-speed stunts when he lost control of the Yamaha and crashed into the classroom, Reeves said. Allen was wearing a helmet, but he was pronounced dead at 8:18 p.m. at Riverside Community Hospital, Reeves said.

An accident investigation was expected to continue, and police asked anyone with any information to contact Riverside police Detective Rick Prince at (951) 353-7990.


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To: Zeddicus

Granted this was too powerful of a bike for most 16 year olds, but we do not know his skill level. He could have been a very accomplished rider on dirt bikes and he did show enough sense and responsibility to practice in an empty parking lot with a helmet on.

Accidents happen and who are we to second guess when it is our time to go?

We buy our kids old beat up cars that can still go fast enough to get hurt or killed in but somehow this is different because he was on a motorcycle and we blame the parents.

Motorcycles don’t kill people anymore than guns are responsible for people being killed with one.


21 posted on 07/27/2008 1:56:10 PM PDT by BigSkyDream
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To: OldMissileer

I’m with you. People are getting rediculous with their kids. When I was in high school in the ‘80’s, there were maybe a couple new cars in the student parking lot but now every school is full of them.


22 posted on 07/27/2008 2:08:36 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: BenLurkin

Prayers go out. Tough way for a 16-year-old to learn a hard lesson. A shattered leg would have done wonders for his maturity. Very sad when a young man doesn’t get a 2nd chance to learn a lesson but pays the ultimate price for a bit of foolishness. I feel very sorry for his family.


23 posted on 07/27/2008 2:20:07 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: BenLurkin

I used to live not far from there....and worked at RVSD Community Hospital.


24 posted on 07/27/2008 2:42:27 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: BigSkyDream
Motorcycles don’t kill people anymore than guns are responsible for people being killed with one.

Inexperienced riders need a motorcycle that is appropriate to their skill level. I started out on a 150 cc scooter, and still managed to get into trouble. As I mastered every bike, I would move up another level.

Frankly, when I moved up to a CB 750, I figured that was all the power I needed or wanted. Others may want more, of course. I don't ride so much, anymore, so I don't consider myself to be a good enough rider to handle a Yamaha R1 safely.

People need to be realistic about what they can handle.

25 posted on 07/27/2008 2:50:14 PM PDT by gridlock (IT'S AN OIL ECONOMY, STUPID!.......................................................(FREE LAZAMATAZ!))
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To: BenLurkin

I’m thinking this gene pool is where we get our warrior class from. How many die before they can defend us?


26 posted on 07/27/2008 3:55:43 PM PDT by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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To: BenLurkin

We don’t know anything about his experience but it’s not uncommon for people to want more bike than they can handle. That’s a whole lotta bike. Prayers for the family.


27 posted on 07/27/2008 4:23:09 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I've done here today doesn't force you to have a negative opinion of me....)
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To: BenLurkin

My friend had a Honda 125 to get to school and back. As soon as he turned 17 his mom bought him a 750. He thought he could do anything with that power increase. What he did was try to pass a car on the right, who ended up turning right, and was thrown head first into the curb.

Like this poor kid, too much bike and nowhere near enough maturity.


28 posted on 07/27/2008 5:11:57 PM PDT by kenth (Just think, .000001783% of the population is screwing it all up for the rest of us.)
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To: Does so

Not sure if you meant that as an insult — but as a former Marine Infantryman I find it pretty offensive!

Everyone is blaming the parents and the motorcycle. I would be willing to wager that it was the helmet that caused his death. There isn’t many stunts that require enough speed to cause enough blunt force injuries to kill a person.
Full face helmets have a tendency to severe the brain stem because the chin guard acts like a lever and simply unplugs a person.


29 posted on 07/27/2008 5:33:08 PM PDT by BigSkyDream
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To: BenLurkin
A 16-year-old Riverside boy doing stunts in a high school parking lot crashed his new 2008 Yamaha R1 motorcycle into a classroom building,

One reaps what they sow.......

A couple weeks ago I was driving down a 4 lane (west bound 4 lanes and east bound 4 lanes)doing about 50 mph when I hear a roar behind me and look in my rear view mirror at some jackass who had just popped a wheelie on his crotch rocket. He held that wheelie at over 50 MPH for about 75 yards till he passed me then dropped down and sped off. I was really, really tempted to pull into the lane on my left when I saw him take off. It would have been all over for him...........

30 posted on 07/27/2008 5:39:37 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

I have jerks in cars roar past me all the time in my big truck! I guess they’ll get what’s coming to them if I cut them off and put them in the ditch.

I can’t believe how such a somber thread could attract so many callous anti-motorcycle bigots


31 posted on 07/27/2008 5:45:00 PM PDT by BigSkyDream
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To: DemonDeac
An R1 is a serious machine. I would never trust one in the hands of a 16 year old or anyone without experience on bikes. Certainty not to perform tricks with. Those things have spectacular power to weight ratios and have more HP than a lot of cars.

A brand new R-1, off the show room floor, with street tires, could have won AMA Superbike races just 5 years ago. And Grand Prix races less than 10 years ago.

According to Yamaha, the bike has a dry weight of just under 400 pounds, and 180HP at the crank. So figure in the neighborhood of 150-160 at the rear wheel.

And these things are perfectly stable, not the high-strung racing bikes of years past. They're perfectly happy to run as commuter bikes, AS LONG AS THE RIDER KEEPS HIMSELF UNDER CONTROL!

That's the key. But cranking open the throttle suddenly will cause all sorts of horrible problems that all but a very few 16 year olds can handle. And by that, I mean riders who are already professional racers at 16.

Mark

32 posted on 07/27/2008 8:11:37 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: BigSkyDream
Granted this was too powerful of a bike for most 16 year olds, but we do not know his skill level. He could have been a very accomplished rider on dirt bikes and he did show enough sense and responsibility to practice in an empty parking lot with a helmet on.

Unless his last name was Hayden, Bostrom, or Hopkins, he didn't fit that mold. And in fact, what you'll find is that the top level young riders are actually far more CONSERVATIVE AND RESTRAINED in their riding on the streets, if they ride on the streets at all.

A real, high lever rider only needs to prove what he or she can do on the track, and they're aware of the less that controlled conditions on the streets or even in parking lots.

Mark

33 posted on 07/27/2008 8:17:48 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: Thombo2

I still don’t appreciate it today. That is why I have four motorbikes in my garage. Started on “crotch rockets” at 18, but I started responsibly. Didn’t do wheelies, etc because I didn’t know how and wasn’t in a rush to learn.

Regardless, 150+hp and a 16year old is a combo asking for trouble.

RIP


34 posted on 07/27/2008 9:56:48 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: BenLurkin
Allen was wearing a helmet

That'll serve as his casket.

35 posted on 07/27/2008 10:24:35 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Zeddicus

This kid probably would’ve done just as badly on a modern 600 — all of them are much stronger that the Z-1 was back in the late 70’s. And the new ones don’t have the “death wobble” at speed — they’re solid as a rock at any speed.

I’ve been riding crotch-rockets all my life, and have two now. People ask me what bike they should get, and if they don’t currently own a bike I tell them I don’t recommend buying one at all. It’s just too dangerous.

Of course I have to explain why I still have them — it’s in my blood. I can’t help it. Risk is mitigated by the fact that I ride less than I used to, and my street skills are excellent. I also wear proper gear, including (usually) full roadrace leathers and (always)a full-face helmet.

Not to mention there’s nothing like the thrill you can experience on a good crotch-rocket.


36 posted on 07/28/2008 12:27:43 AM PDT by zipper
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To: BigSkyDream
Not sure if you meant that as an insult — but as a former Marine Infantryman I find it pretty offensive!

Not at all an insult, as I put myself in the "warrior class" during Viet Nam. There are too few of our American youth who would even attempt expertise with dangerous equipment. It's a pity that attempts with similar skills weren't channeled earlier into a patriot's service.

Everyone is blaming the parents and the motorcycle. I would be willing to wager that it was the helmet that caused his death. There isn’t many stunts that require enough speed to cause enough blunt force injuries to kill a person. Full face helmets have a tendency to severe the brain stem because the chin guard acts like a lever and simply unplugs a person.

I instruct drivers in high speed car control for my BMW car club, and I prefer the NASCAR-style open-face helmet for that very reason.

I would never have had a son on that motorcycle. My folks bought me a used VW Beetle when they learned I had bought and was driving a motorcycle.

37 posted on 07/28/2008 3:03:47 AM PDT by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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To: BenLurkin

R1 MSRP = $11,699

Nice gift from daddy, I wonder what the kid’s funeral cost him?


38 posted on 07/28/2008 3:12:02 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: BenLurkin
In the 1970s parents use to buy their kids V8 Vettes, Mustangs, etc. with about the same effect. Parants who just want to be loved and don't know the limits of their children are fools.
39 posted on 07/28/2008 4:36:33 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: MarkL

you’re forgetting also that to be perfectly honost, 90% of riders will never come close to finding out what a litre bike is truly capable of. its rare to find someone who will fully utilize even a 600cc bike. especially if they’re only riding on the street.
i drive a shadow 750, and that’s more bike than i need.


40 posted on 07/28/2008 5:50:23 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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