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New York’s Birth Date: Don’t Go by City’s Seal
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| July 14, 2008
| SAM ROBERTS
Posted on 07/14/2008 3:49:35 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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I vote for 1624
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posted on
07/14/2008 3:49:36 AM PDT
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Pharmboy
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posted on
07/14/2008 3:52:21 AM PDT
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Pharmboy
(Democrats lie because they must.)
To: Pharmboy
Perhaps that was when the Emperor's Club was originially founded.
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posted on
07/14/2008 3:55:07 AM PDT
by
Diogenesis
(Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
To: Pharmboy
That's the New York STATE flag. PLEASE do not confuse New York with New York CITY. :-)
New York City flag...
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posted on
07/14/2008 4:06:08 AM PDT
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: Diogenesis
Perhaps that was when the Emperor's Club was originially founded. Okay...and now what about the sailor, Indian, flour barrels, and windmill?
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posted on
07/14/2008 4:06:30 AM PDT
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: Gondring
Okay...and now what about the sailor, Indian, flour barrels, and windmill? Wow. That is just sick and twisted.
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posted on
07/14/2008 4:11:49 AM PDT
by
Diogenesis
(Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
To: Pharmboy
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posted on
07/14/2008 4:11:53 AM PDT
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: Gondring
Thanks for the correction. Dumb mistake on my part...I should know better!
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posted on
07/14/2008 4:48:20 AM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(Democrats lie because they must.)
To: Pharmboy
Will they also rename the city back to its original, New Amsterdam?
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posted on
07/14/2008 5:02:51 AM PDT
by
CarrotAndStick
(The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
To: Pharmboy
FWIW ...use of Gregorian v Julian calendars makes for some confusion
An important note about dates during the Dutch colonial period: it is common to see dates listed as March 11/21, 1712, for example. This is due to the Dutch adoption of the Gregorian calendar in 1582, the date it was enacted by Pope Gregory XIII. This act added days to the calendar to correct for centuries of “drift” and to realign the vernal equinox with the 25th day of March, in addition to making 1 January the official first day of the year. The British, meanwhile, continued to follow the Julian calendar until 1752, noting March 25 as the first day of each year. After September 2 of that year, the split notation of dates ceased to be necessary.
To: CarrotAndStick; Pharmboy
Will they also rename the city back to its original, New Amsterdam? Only if Istanbul goes back to Constantinople:
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way
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posted on
07/14/2008 5:38:05 AM PDT
by
Constitution Day
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To: Pharmboy
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posted on
07/14/2008 6:12:29 AM PDT
by
aculeus
To: Pharmboy
Funny thing about buying the island from the Indians. Those Indians didn’t own the land to start with.
They were just passing through at the right time.
(according to Mayflower by Philbrick anyway)
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posted on
07/14/2008 8:32:28 AM PDT
by
Conan the Librarian
(The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
To: Constitution Day
Istanbul was originally Byzantium (Byzantion).
New Amsterdam (and the entire colony of New Netherland) was captured by the English, and became part of a large swath of territory King Charles II granted to his brother the Duke of York (the later King James II of England and King James VII of Scotland). That's when the city and colony began to be called New York.
Eboracum is the Latin name for York, England, so on the seal New York is referred to as Novum Eboracum.
York is where Constantine was proclaimed emperor in 306, to tie things back to Istanbul...
To: Pharmboy
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Thanks Pharmboy. It would make most sense, IMHO, to observe the anniversary of the founding of New York, and have a separate observation for the founding of New Amsterdam. :') Of course, I have roots in all three (English, Dutch, and Irish, and then some). No ping, just adding.
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07/14/2008 10:12:09 AM PDT
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posted on
07/14/2008 10:18:36 AM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(Democrats lie because they must.)
To: Pharmboy
My 9th great grandmother Adrienne Cuvellier Vigne son was the first European child born in New Amsterdam (New York)
in early 1620s
My 9th great grandparents lived near the present Wall and Pearl Sts. in NY
Have many 9th great who came to New Amsterdam in 1620s
Dutch, Flemish Walloons and French Huguenots
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posted on
07/14/2008 1:05:08 PM PDT
by
SoCalPol
(Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
To: SoCalPol
Nice...I love New Amsterdam history. Any artifacts from the old days make into your family after all these years?
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posted on
07/14/2008 2:43:13 PM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(Democrats lie because they must.)
To: Pharmboy
No artifacts but researching the various families is just great for loving history.
The history of early New York is so varied and interesting.
Have read letters on line from a Dutch Rev. late 1600s trying to explain what he sees and the people in New Amsterdam. Interesting reading his take on all this.
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posted on
07/14/2008 6:08:43 PM PDT
by
SoCalPol
(Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
To: Gondring
"Perhaps that was when the Emperor's Club was originially founded."
Okay...and now what about the sailor, Indian, flour barrels, and windmill?
What you do in your private life or semi-private commercial transactions are your business. For heaven's sake please remember that this is a family friendly forum!
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posted on
07/14/2008 6:37:08 PM PDT
by
rmlew
(Liberalism is like AIDS; it destroys the natural defenses of a nation or civilization.)
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