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Fascinated by Zappa
Myself ^ | 6/19/08 | Me

Posted on 06/19/2008 6:36:10 AM PDT by CharlieOK1

I am not really into the music scene of today, as I believe that everything that is touted as 'new' or 'the next big thing' always ends up being something somebody else already did. I have lately found myself digging back into music that really was innovative and ground-breaking. A lot of which was done before I was even around (I am 30). For example, Steely Dan, King Crimson, Yes, David Bowie...

I have always been fascinated by Frank Zappa, as he is basically universally thought of as a musical genius, but just have never really dove into his musical catalog as I really don't know where to start.


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To: FrdmLvr

Would it be OK for us to plug Little Feat into this list as well? With the added bonus that 2 of the original members of Little Feat (Roy Estrada and Lowell George) were just prior to the release of LF’s 1st record members of Zappa’s band.


61 posted on 06/19/2008 8:39:01 AM PDT by dmz
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To: CharlieOK1; FrdmLvr
,I.Check out the old Genesis with Peter Gabriel from the 70’s (The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway), old Wishbone Ash, Gentle Giant, Blind Faith, Cream, The Nazz, Todd Rundgren, John Mayall (blues) to name a few.

The trick to finding more of this type of genre (rock/jazz-fusion) is to read the liner notes and see who played in the band. Back in the day, many of these guys worked with each other.

For example: King Crimson's bassist, Tony Levin, nows collaborates with Peter Gabriel, who used to be in Genesis. Bill Bruford, who has done stints as the drummer for King Crimson, has also played/toured with Genesis, as well as been a drummer for Yes.

By doing internet searches on particular band members, you'll find a whole host of new music that you never knew existed.

62 posted on 06/19/2008 8:39:01 AM PDT by Ranxerox
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To: vimto

MUD SHARK!


63 posted on 06/19/2008 8:39:02 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: CharlieOK1
Freak Out as the Big Bang. Grab a kazoo and sing along.

Saw him in a relatively small room in 1970 with those two semi-naked falsetto singers Flo & Eddie. A display of individual musicianship. Many different things at once. He'd raise a little finger and trains would be headed one-eighty without losing velocity. Physics cannot explain.

Aplomb would be too hyperactive to describe him. "We've broken a guitar string. Talk among yourselves."

His widow said he and Bill Clinton were brothers under the skin. That Gore dressed like a policeman.

Was not afraid to cut his hair and put on a suit to testify.

One might deduce an iconoclast who believed all borders were self-imposed.

"Life is such a ball
I run the world from city hall"

Brown Shoes Don't Make It

64 posted on 06/19/2008 8:39:33 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Ranxerox

The trick to finding more of this type of genre (rock/jazz-fusion) is to read the liner notes and see who played in the band. Back in the day, many of these guys worked with each other.
_________

Absolutely fantastic advice.


65 posted on 06/19/2008 8:41:30 AM PDT by dmz
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To: 7thson
Did you know ‘MUD SHARK’ is an anagram of ‘OSAMA BIN LADEN’?

Not many people know that.

66 posted on 06/19/2008 8:45:21 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: my4kidsdad
I only ave a couple Zappa albums. Live At The Filmore 79, Overnite Sensation, Apostrophie, Jazz. Got a question for you.
I remember years ago back in the 70's, I was watching - I think - The Midnight Special w/Wolfman Jack. One of those Friday/Saturday night programs where the days pop artists are highlighted. Well, on one show they did a segment on Zappa. They showed this claymation film of Zappa playing his guitar. While playing he is looking at his left hand as it morphs into multiple fingers, then finally morphs into a serpent and as the claymation Zappa looks on in horror, the snake bites him in the neck.
Questions - do you have that? Where is it from? How can I get a copy?
67 posted on 06/19/2008 8:45:34 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
I like No New York - but it is overrated by some critics. The Contortions and DNA (i.e. Arto Lindsay) stand the test of time.

Lydia Lunch's stuff is unlistenable poseury, and Mars doesn't quite get it done.

68 posted on 06/19/2008 8:49:08 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Ranxerox; FrdmLvr

Yup. That’s how I got interested in Zappa. By figuring out that Adrian Belew, from King Crimson, used to work with Zappa and Talking Heads and I think David Bowie. Belew is freaking awesome.


69 posted on 06/19/2008 8:49:42 AM PDT by CharlieOK1 (Don't tax me, bro!)
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To: CharlieOK1

But John Peel thought that the most best album ever was by Zappa’s friend, the great CAPTAIN BEEFHEART! Get a copy of TROUT MASK REPLICA (available quite cheap these days) and wonder where music has gone since.......but beware, not an easy listen.


70 posted on 06/19/2008 8:51:50 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

Go early and often...Freak Out and Absolutely Free. You will find that there are many song lyrics that are almost as timely now as they were then.


71 posted on 06/19/2008 8:54:24 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Lurker; CharlieOK1

lurker nailed the proper Zappa anthology


72 posted on 06/19/2008 8:54:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (it's hot as hell again in Dixie)
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To: jblair
Wow! I have never heard of Elliot Randall before. I can't think of a guitar solo I like more than “Reelin”, and now to find out that since 1972 I have been under the impression someone else had done it. I might have to visit his website and write a letter of apology, just out of respect.
73 posted on 06/19/2008 8:55:41 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: allmendream

Timeless lyrics...a favorite.


74 posted on 06/19/2008 8:57:20 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: LS

Irony was that even though he didn’t do drugs, I sure found his music much easier to enjoy high.....very high to be precise.

...except for his commercial diddies like Disco Boy or Valley Girl.

I haven’t thought about it for a long time but I can still remember the funny lyrics to Dinah Moe Hum, Montana, Camarillo Brillo, Dirty Love, Zombie Woof......Overnight Sensation came out in 73, I was 15-16....it was perfect for the time.


75 posted on 06/19/2008 8:59:30 AM PDT by wardaddy (it's hot as hell again in Dixie)
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To: wardaddy

Well, it was better high because the topics were so absurd. “Moving to Montana soon . . . gonna be a dental floss tycoon.”


76 posted on 06/19/2008 9:01:00 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: CharlieOK1

I have an extensive music collection, mostly rock with jazz, classical, old r&b, and country thrown in. Anything from AC/DC to ZZ Top. I love the instrumentals.

Frank could do things on a guitar others could only dream of. I saw him once. What struck me was that when playing the guitar, he seemed to be staring off into space. Not looking at the audience, or at the instrument. Just lost in his own world.

He lived a clean lifestyle, for the most part. He abhorred drugs. And he did die young. But he had the vice of being a heavy smoker. And the cancer got him.

At St. Alfonso’s pancake breakfast
Where I stole the margarine
And whittled on the bingo cards
And blew up the latrine

I wrapped a newspaper ‘round my head
So I’d look like I was Deep
I said some Mumbo Jumbos then
An’ told him he was goin’ to sleep
I robbed his rings
An’ pocket watch
An’ everything else I found
I had that sucker hypnotized
He couldn’t even make a sound
I proceeded to tell him his future then
As long as he was hanging around,
I said
“The price of meat has just gone up
An’ yer ol’ lady has just gone down . . . “
Look here brother,
Who you jivin’ with that Cosmik Debris?
(Now is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?)
Don’t you know,
You could make more money as a butcher,


77 posted on 06/19/2008 9:01:22 AM PDT by fredhead (4-cylinder, air cooled, horizontally opposed......THE REAL VW!!!)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Baby, baby.


78 posted on 06/19/2008 9:01:43 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: CharlieOK1
I saw Frank Zappa at least 6 times, and met him once.

An amazing guy and very, very kind to a young fan who had stood outside a radio station office for 2 hours in the snow.

I still have a T-shirt from a Mothers Day show in 1977.

He always surrounded himself with top notch musicians and demanded the very best from them AND himself.

Start with 2 or 3 of the albums I mentioned and you'll soon be, as I am, an incurable Zappa-phile.

Coincidentally his son, Dweezil, just did a tour a couple years ago which is available on the 'net as "Zappa plays Zappa". I saw an interview with him and he said the hardest thing about setting it up was the he couldn't find enough musicians who were technically proficient enough to play the stuff his dad composed.

Thanks for bringing back some very pleasant memories for me.

Best,

L

79 posted on 06/19/2008 9:03:52 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: P.O.E.

Willie is excellent.


80 posted on 06/19/2008 9:05:38 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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