Posted on 06/10/2008 9:03:27 AM PDT by youshouldknowthetruth
I really haven't the slightest knowledge about this issue, but I did find an interesting analysis of his status, as a "Naturalized Citizen"...
http://www.aina.org/news/20080610032620.htm
Hawaii was first a Kingdom, then a Republic and then a Territory. Prior to Statehood, citizenship was not granted to the residents of Hawaii. As such, Hawaii was an organized unincorporated Territory.
An unincorporated territory is an area under U.S. jurisdiction, to which Congress has determined that only select parts of the U.S. Constitution apply. Unincorporated territories are essentially colonies, under the supremacy clause, receiving only whatever powers are offered by the U.S. Congress.
Today, there are no inhabited, incorporated territories though there are a series of atolls and islands that are uninhabited but incorporated territories. Current examples of Organized, unincorporated territories would include Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico (commonwealth), United States Virgin Islands
“He was born to a US citizen on US soil.”
Have you seen his birth certificate?
Not really. That wasn’t true until around 1980 and he was over 18 by then.
Dittoing most other posts. Non issue. Just like McCain being born in the Canal Zone.
In reality, Hawaii was an incorporated territory of the US from 1900 to 1959.
So the FEC is just ignoring the law and allowing him to run?
I think not.
Bookmarked.
He still had to register. From Wikipedia:
Then on July 2, 1980, President Jimmy Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18-26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960. Only men born between March 29, 1957, and December 31, 1959, were completely exempt from Selective Service registration.[2]
The truth is out there.
(Cue spooky X-Files music)
More likely sarcasm as it’s been discussed before ... and probably will be again.
Question?
If O-bomb-them’s birth certificate says “Barry Obama” and the nominating petitions to put his name on the primary ballot say “Barack Obama” then who the H*** is Barack Obama and was Barry actually entitled to participate in the election at all?
If this is fact, then strictly speaking, Hillary ought to be the DemocRAT candidate.
Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona in 1909, three years before Arizona became a state. The citizenship issue was raised in the 1964 campaign, and the consensus that emerged then was that Goldwater was a ânatural-bornâ citizen. I don’t think the issue was formally litigated, however.
How can a person be allowed to run for POTUS without releasing his birth certificate? It seems that in order to determine if a person is legally qualified to run for POTUS, you would need to be able to verify his age, his place of birth, etc. To not be able to verify these basic facts would leave the door open to anyone, citizen or not, running for POTUS. With the easy ability to get fake idenitification papers, SS#’s etc., it is plausible that Barry may in fact not meet the legal requirements for POTUS. Without his bith certificate, it is impossible to assume otherwise, especially since he spent a alrge part of his early childhood overseas.
He is refusing because it probably says on his birth certificate:
Name:Barack Hussein Mohammed Obama.
Religion: Muslim.
I heard the moon was made of green cheese.
Since you appear to want sources ... please site yours for the assumption that Hawaii was an incorporated territory from 1900 till 1950.
That is because in the act that created the territory, the Arizona Organic act, http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llhb&fileName=037/llhb037.db&recNum=1985 gave the same rights to the territory as the other states, thus incorporating the state.
People born in incorporated territories are citizens according to law.
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