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Is Obama Leagally Qualified to be President?
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Posted on 06/10/2008 9:03:27 AM PDT by youshouldknowthetruth

I really haven't the slightest knowledge about this issue, but I did find an interesting analysis of his status, as a "Naturalized Citizen"...

http://www.aina.org/news/20080610032620.htm


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KEYWORDS: obama; president; qualified; selectiveservice
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To: youshouldknowthetruth
A real issue is if he is legally eligible for government employement because he probably never registered for Selective Service. His birthdate and being a male US citizend made it manditory.
41 posted on 06/10/2008 9:50:20 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: wideawake
An incorporated territory of the United States is a specific area under the jurisdiction of the United States, over which the United States Congress has determined that the United States Constitution is to be applied to the territory's local government and inhabitants in its entirety (e. g. citizenship, trial by jury), in the same manner as it applies to the local governments and residents of the U.S. states. Incorporated territories are considered an integral part of the United States, as opposed to being merely possessions.

Hawaii was first a Kingdom, then a Republic and then a Territory. Prior to Statehood, citizenship was not granted to the residents of Hawaii. As such, Hawaii was an organized unincorporated Territory.

An unincorporated territory is an area under U.S. jurisdiction, to which Congress has determined that only select parts of the U.S. Constitution apply. Unincorporated territories are essentially colonies, under the supremacy clause, receiving only whatever powers are offered by the U.S. Congress.

Today, there are no inhabited, incorporated territories though there are a series of atolls and islands that are uninhabited but incorporated territories. Current examples of Organized, unincorporated territories would include Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico (commonwealth), United States Virgin Islands

42 posted on 06/10/2008 9:54:51 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: wideawake

“He was born to a US citizen on US soil.”

Have you seen his birth certificate?


43 posted on 06/10/2008 9:59:15 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Not really. That wasn’t true until around 1980 and he was over 18 by then.


44 posted on 06/10/2008 10:00:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: youshouldknowthetruth

Dittoing most other posts. Non issue. Just like McCain being born in the Canal Zone.


45 posted on 06/10/2008 10:03:57 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: taxcontrol
Thanks for the unsourced cut-and-paste job.

In reality, Hawaii was an incorporated territory of the US from 1900 to 1959.

46 posted on 06/10/2008 10:04:26 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: youshouldknowthetruth

So the FEC is just ignoring the law and allowing him to run?

I think not.


47 posted on 06/10/2008 10:05:36 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: youshouldknowthetruth

Bookmarked.


48 posted on 06/10/2008 10:08:56 AM PDT by papasmurf (Unless I post a link to a resource, what I post is opinion, regardless of how I spin it.)
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To: AppyPappy
Not really. That wasn’t true until around 1980 and he was over 18 by then.

He still had to register. From Wikipedia:

Then on July 2, 1980, President Jimmy Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18-26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960. Only men born between March 29, 1957, and December 31, 1959, were completely exempt from Selective Service registration.[2]

49 posted on 06/10/2008 10:11:31 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (the Clinton dream of being a two impeachment family goes right down the drain. - Letterman)
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To: wideawake

The truth is out there.

(Cue spooky X-Files music)


50 posted on 06/10/2008 10:13:25 AM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: youshouldknowthetruth
Wasn't all this answered when Goldwater ran. He was born in Arizona Territory before it became a state.
51 posted on 06/10/2008 10:13:57 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (the Clinton dream of being a two impeachment family goes right down the drain. - Letterman)
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To: mgstarr

More likely sarcasm as it’s been discussed before ... and probably will be again.


52 posted on 06/10/2008 10:14:11 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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To: youshouldknowthetruth

Question?
If O-bomb-them’s birth certificate says “Barry Obama” and the nominating petitions to put his name on the primary ballot say “Barack Obama” then who the H*** is Barack Obama and was Barry actually entitled to participate in the election at all?
If this is fact, then strictly speaking, Hillary ought to be the DemocRAT candidate.


53 posted on 06/10/2008 10:31:02 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: taxcontrol
Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona in 1909, three years before Arizona became a state. The citizenship issue was raised in the 1964 campaign, and the consensus that emerged then was that Goldwater was a “natural-born” citizen. I don't think the issue was formally litigated, however.
54 posted on 06/10/2008 10:35:09 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: taxcontrol

Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona in 1909, three years before Arizona became a state. The citizenship issue was raised in the 1964 campaign, and the consensus that emerged then was that Goldwater was a “natural-born” citizen. I don’t think the issue was formally litigated, however.


55 posted on 06/10/2008 10:36:12 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: BuffaloJack

How can a person be allowed to run for POTUS without releasing his birth certificate? It seems that in order to determine if a person is legally qualified to run for POTUS, you would need to be able to verify his age, his place of birth, etc. To not be able to verify these basic facts would leave the door open to anyone, citizen or not, running for POTUS. With the easy ability to get fake idenitification papers, SS#’s etc., it is plausible that Barry may in fact not meet the legal requirements for POTUS. Without his bith certificate, it is impossible to assume otherwise, especially since he spent a alrge part of his early childhood overseas.


56 posted on 06/10/2008 10:36:14 AM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: taxcontrol

He is refusing because it probably says on his birth certificate:
Name:Barack Hussein Mohammed Obama.
Religion: Muslim.


57 posted on 06/10/2008 11:05:37 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: gracesdad

I heard the moon was made of green cheese.


58 posted on 06/10/2008 11:06:57 AM PDT by dhot ( If the cops arrest a mime do they tell him he has the right to remain silent?)
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To: wideawake

Since you appear to want sources ... please site yours for the assumption that Hawaii was an incorporated territory from 1900 till 1950.


59 posted on 06/10/2008 12:10:05 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: riverdawg

That is because in the act that created the territory, the Arizona Organic act, http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llhb&fileName=037/llhb037.db&recNum=1985 gave the same rights to the territory as the other states, thus incorporating the state.

People born in incorporated territories are citizens according to law.


60 posted on 06/10/2008 12:20:22 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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