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The Snubnose: The little gun that could…
www.policeone.com ^ | 06/09/2008 | Richard Fairburn

Posted on 06/09/2008 7:20:52 PM PDT by B4Ranch

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To: oldsalt

I can’t think of very many situations where I would be inclined to shoot someone who was 75 feet away from me. The idea of immediate threat isn’t there, so fear for my life as a defense wouldn’t work. I don’t do any slow shooting whatsoever because I am not interested in trying to be a sniper with a revolver.

I do practice rapid fire three and four rounds at distances under 20 feet up to four feet. Those are the distances where I can see myself having to shoot a thug. Most of the time I’ll practice at night under the moonlight or dryfire here at home. I love my Crimson Trace laser grips. One of the smartest purchases I have ever made.

.357’s hurt my ears more than a .50 cal BMG does. When I was younger, I liked them but now, no thanks. LOL


61 posted on 06/09/2008 9:05:43 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: donmeaker
Yes, it is a .36 diameter bullet, in a .38 inch diameter case. The .44 shoots a .43 diameter bullet from a .44 inch diameter case. The .41 is an honest .41 inch diameter, the .45 Auto (or Auto Rim if you, like me, have a .45 Auto revolver and are tired of moon clips) is an honest .455, whle the .45 Colt is an honest .452 inch diameter.

That's because the .38 cartridge was developed from the .36 cap and ball revolver in the early 1870s. The first big bore (bigger than .22) cartridge revolvers were introduced by Remington in 1868. They were cap and ball revolvers with cartridge conversion cylindrs. The first one was a .43 caliber. The original Colt .45 can also be found in .451, 452 and .457, at least in the early days.

62 posted on 06/09/2008 9:12:47 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: SkyDancer

Glazer Safeties are frangible ammunition. My brain didn’t register the name. I use RBCD Platinum Plus. Why? Because a local cop recommended them to me.

Air marshalls would probably carry a similar round.


63 posted on 06/09/2008 9:13:12 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Yeah. Frickin’ panty wetting gun fearing liberal weenies.


64 posted on 06/09/2008 9:13:16 PM PDT by null and void (Bureaucracies are stupid. They grow larger by the square of the population and stupider by its cube.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
It only goes on the ankle as a BUG.

When it comes to work, anything that is necessary to earn one's wages is then a different level of discussion.

65 posted on 06/09/2008 9:13:35 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

One doesn’t have to be a LEO to have a BUG.......


66 posted on 06/09/2008 9:22:17 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: B4Ranch
41 oz with 4” barrel is more weight than this old man wants to lug around but I’ll go shooting with you anytime.

I'm planning on getting one of these next.


67 posted on 06/09/2008 9:53:57 PM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
One doesn’t have to be a LEO to have a BUG.......

I know. ; )

68 posted on 06/09/2008 9:58:30 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

Oooooh...are you expecting? ;~D
Beautiful firearms EGPWS...look forward to seeing your new “baby” when it arrives!


69 posted on 06/09/2008 11:02:25 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: B4Ranch
I work at a gun range part-time. I teach people to shoot pistols, rifles, and the occasional machine gun. I have never ceased to be amazed at the number of people that take the Texas concealed handgun course with almost no idea of which end of the gun the bullet comes out of. A large number of people show up with guns they have never fired, and on occasion they have never fired a gun before. The worst are actually the handgun renewals. Many of them haven't fired a gun since they got the initial license several years before.

In my humble opinion, whatever handgun you carry will work, as long as you have shot it a lot. You have to know how to use the firearm without thinking. Literally.

I started out as a medic and later an OR technician. I think I've seen people killed with ever caliber you can think of, except maybe a .22 short. Because of that I don't care that much what caliber I'm carrying. I normally carry a .380 auto that is basically a 1911 clone. I've been shooting a 1911 of one sort or another all of my adult life. I have no deep philosophical attachment to the .380, but I can use a 1911 in my sleep, so why change the habits of a lifetime now?

70 posted on 06/09/2008 11:08:43 PM PDT by Brucifer ("The dog ate my copy of the Constitution." G W Bush)
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To: Soliton

See post #15-the Tomcat’s slide doesn’t have to be “racked”. The barrel actually lifts to load the first shell.


71 posted on 06/09/2008 11:22:07 PM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: EGPWS; All
I don't have a pic of the .25 yet...but here are the other 4


72 posted on 06/09/2008 11:34:45 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: EGPWS
"...PSST, if you carry on your ankle for self defense, not only are you limited because of proximity of your tool, you are uncomfortable carrying it there. IMO..."

The revolver always works.

I was so accustomed to ankle-carry of my Chief's Special m.37 (alloy frame), I'd be out there mowing the lawn with it on!

I aggressively-sanded the inside grip to conceal the bulge and, after 20 years of police carry, wore the finish away on the frame and cylinder! On the one occasion I needed it, all five rounds had to be fired: don't expect to hit anything at 50 feet under duress. Retired, I still have it handy—hidden bedside—after 30 years.

Even today, he first round to be fired is a partitioned, three-part jacketed bullet made by IMI: the rest are 125-grain WWJHP. (The 110-grain not being "enough bullet", IMHO).

Another tip for concealment is to slip the top ½ of an old sock over your ankle holster, so the holster (or barrel) doesn't appear while seated.

(BTW: a padlock clipped behind the trigger is the simplest lock for storage.)

73 posted on 06/10/2008 3:57:21 AM PDT by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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To: oldsalt

The new Taurus 1911 needs a LASER sight because the Heinie front and rear sights were not designed correctly. The gun shoots about two feet high at 60 yards which is unacceptable. I called the company and they want me to ship the sights back to them. I’m going to try to do it next wednesday at the earliest.


74 posted on 06/10/2008 5:15:26 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: SIDENET

Now that puppy is cute! Yessir, I like it. Be sure to cuddle the little feller. I like the Weight Empty, yes I do. Somebody should have told the design engineer that they were going to put Crimson Trace grips on it so they could save a few bucks on the XS Sights® 24/7 Tritium Night sights.

SKU: 163073
Model: M&P340
Caliber: .357MAG/.38+P
Capacity: 5 Rounds
Barrel Length: 1.87”
Front Sight: XS Sights® 24/7 Tritium Night
Rear Sight: Integral U-Notch
Grip: Crimson Trace® Lasergrip
Overall Length: 6.31”
Weight Empty: 13.3 oz.
Material: Scandium Alloy Frame/Stainless Steel Cylinder
Finish: Matte Black
Frame Size: Small - Centennial Style
Action: Double Action Only


75 posted on 06/10/2008 7:31:31 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: Brucifer
If someone hasn't fired a gun in years, a loving relative should remove the weapon from their possession. See my tagline.

>A large number of people show up with guns they have never fired, and on occasion they have never fired a gun before.<

These are the folks that you should greet with open arms. Offering to answer any questions they might have. An educated person will always support the 2nd.

>In my humble opinion, whatever handgun you carry will work, as long as you have shot it a lot.<

No, see Tagline. (skill is required)

Idea buzzing in my head -———Ask your boss about having a 1/2 price range month to bring in people who have drifted away from practicing. Get their efficiency with their weapons back up to the acceptable level. Make lowlight, short distance (25 feet max) target practice a norm at the range. Criminals love the dark nights and deep shadows, so we must practice in their working environment

76 posted on 06/10/2008 7:44:59 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: trussell
Without a doubt, this is the sexiest picture on the whole threead.


77 posted on 06/10/2008 7:50:16 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch

It’s a good gun! I use to shoot bowling pins at 50 feet. Consistantly able to knock down 4 pins with 4 or 5 shots.

That was the extent of the range I was on, so I don’t know if it would be as accurate at further distances.


78 posted on 06/10/2008 8:02:18 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: A.Hun
I'm a fair shot with it, but I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with the snubnose.

Same here...Carried a nice Taurus snubby for awhile, but I'm much more accurate w/ the PPK.

79 posted on 06/10/2008 10:14:43 AM PDT by opus86
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To: Inyo-Mono

There was a .41 Remington rimfire also, I think it served in the little two shot Deringer.


80 posted on 06/10/2008 7:11:43 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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