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Why having an affair could save your marriage.
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 06/09/2008 | By Laura Clout

Posted on 06/09/2008 9:23:11 AM PDT by BoneHead

Having an affair can help to save a struggling marriage, according to a new, controversial self-help book. Mira Kirshenbaum, who has over 30 years' experience as a marriage therapist, says the 'right kind' of affair can be a positive thing, acting to "jolt people from their inertia".

The author of When Good People Have Affairs, published this week, argues that because society has so far failed to have a sympathetic discussion of infidelity, the positive sides of cheating have been ignored.

However, she insists that most cheating spouses should never own up, because revealing the infidelity is more damaging than keeping quiet.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Religion; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: adultery; affair; infidelity; marriage; moralabsolutes; stupid; trust; vows
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To: BoneHead

Anyone remember a Laurel and Hardy movie called Sons of the Desert? Near the end, Stan’s wife starts taking plates out of the cabinets and he says: “But Sugar you don’t have to leave tonight!” She then proceeds to throw every plate at him while he sits in the middle of the room with a pot over his head.....


21 posted on 06/09/2008 9:40:34 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: BoneHead

Here we go again, redefining evil as good.


22 posted on 06/09/2008 9:41:15 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: wideawake
Two interesting premises here:

(1) Defiling your marriage will save your marriage.

(2) Adulterers are "good people."

Truly Satanic - a term I do not use lightly.

Our visiting Pastor, in his sermon yesterday, talked of a parishioner he'd counseled due to a standing affair he'd been having. When asked why the man had this affair he replied "I believe God told me to do it".

The Pastor naturally responded "Are you sure it was God who told you?"

As the Pastor noted, God will never ask us to do anything that goes against His Word. And if what we come to do does go against His Word, then we can rest assured the thought process behind it did not come from God.

I suspect this is a concept the author is unfamiliar with...

23 posted on 06/09/2008 9:45:21 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: BoneHead

“Ms Kirshenbaum, clinical director of the Chestnut Hill Institute, a psychotherapy and research centre in Boston,”

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I’d like to know more about this Chestnut Hill Institute, any relation to the Kinsey Institute? History is full of people who dedicated their work (art, writing, psychology, anthropology, law, legislation, religion, etc.) to justifying their own personal behavior.

Alfed Kinsey to Margaret Mead to Joseph B. Smith, history’s full of them.


24 posted on 06/09/2008 9:45:33 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: BoneHead
Exodus 20

14 "You shall not commit adultery.

Final word

25 posted on 06/09/2008 9:46:28 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: BoneHead
This is truly, deeply idiotic.

I have run into plenty of folks who broke up after the first affair. To a person, they all said that “it wasn't the affair, it was the lying”.

Trust is the basis of marriage. Carrying on sexual relationships with others, with or without a spouses knowledge, undermines that trust both consciously, and perhaps more importantly, unconsciously.You start to hedge yourself and your investment in the relationship.

26 posted on 06/09/2008 9:52:25 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: BoneHead

Because nothing says “I Love You” like giving your wife Clamydia.


27 posted on 06/09/2008 9:55:21 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: bmwcyle

Amen. Divorce before adultery.


28 posted on 06/09/2008 10:02:19 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: BoneHead

Wrong.


29 posted on 06/09/2008 10:03:48 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: HamiltonJay
Fear is a great motivator.

It certainly is...


30 posted on 06/09/2008 10:05:22 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: BoneHead

One’s marriage really isn’t the point of an extramarital affair.


31 posted on 06/09/2008 10:06:25 AM PDT by buck jarret
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To: kalee

I would contend that your statement is not always true.

People who are generally good and decent make mistakes and do bad things, including the having of affairs. For instance, I would consider a one-night stand as a slip to be less of a betrayal than an ongoing affair, which requires ongoing premeditation.

However, we can say with complete authority that when people have affairs they are not “doing good.


32 posted on 06/09/2008 10:07:04 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: BoneHead

Stupidest Title Ever Nominee


33 posted on 06/09/2008 10:07:06 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BoneHead
All right toots! Tell your hubby I am coming over to "jump start" ya!...

- Mira Kirshenbaum

34 posted on 06/09/2008 10:08:15 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Resolute Conservative
and from further down in the article:

"These people are suffering terribly and need to be relieved of their sense of guilt and shame because those emotions are paralysing," she said.

So now I'm confused is it a defibulator or a payalysis machine? This lady is talking out of both ends!

Oh I forgot! Its all about how they feel.

35 posted on 06/09/2008 10:12:18 AM PDT by BoneHead
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To: Sherman Logan
For instance, I would consider a one-night stand as a slip to be less of a betrayal than an ongoing affair, which requires ongoing premeditation.

A one-night stand requires premeditation as well.

As for the "ongoing" part, it depends on what the meaning of ongoing is. :)

36 posted on 06/09/2008 10:12:52 AM PDT by library user
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To: wideawake

“Truly Satanic - a term I do not use lightly.”

Yep, evil is good; good is evil.

This is amazing crap. People just want to hear this so they don’t feel guilty about the affairs they are having.

What was the line? “Vipers whispering what people want to hear . . . “


37 posted on 06/09/2008 10:13:27 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (McCain is the best candidate of the Democrat party.)
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To: San Jacinto
I’m calling BS on this one.

Definitely full of it. Another book destined for the bargain bin.

38 posted on 06/09/2008 10:14:34 AM PDT by BoneHead
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To: kalee
“Good” people do NOT have affairs.

Right on!

39 posted on 06/09/2008 10:17:59 AM PDT by BoneHead
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To: BoneHead
Mira Kirshenbaum, who has over 30 years' experience as a marriage therapist

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Imagine what a help she has been during that time.

Far better for married couples to go to a priest or other clergyman.

40 posted on 06/09/2008 10:20:03 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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