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To: UCANSEE2
And yet, no one has been open minded enough (cept u), to consider that it might have been ‘Sarah’ who was feeding the info to Rosita.

But that isn't particularly logical. If she could call Rosita, she could just as well have called the hot line herself, or better yet, dialed 911. Then there would be no questions about the legality of the warrant and the first "raids" (plural because the CPS raid was technically separate from the Texas Rangers raid).

When CPS went in, they said they were looking for ‘Sarah’. The YFZ Ranch members said there was no such person. CPS found six girls named Sarah . When CPS went in, they said they were looking for ‘Sarah’. The YFZ Ranch members said there was no such person. CPS found six girls named Sarah .

Or did they say they were looking for 16 y/o Sarah, who was "spiritually married" to Dale what's his name in Arizona?

The other (which involves actual evidence) is that Rosita Swinton had an entire library of material on the Mormons, and the FLDS.

This was likely her source of information, but some of the specifics could have come from some other source.

Would have had to, since she was reporting on things going on in the shelters that weren't public knowledge at the time.

49 posted on 06/09/2008 5:42:59 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

I think as we both understand that this issue is just speculation, I can proceed.

Maybe Sarah couldn’t call Rosita. Maybe she wrote her letters, or possibly Sarah wrote them to someone else, and Rosita got copies.

Who would Sarah write too, if she felt the need? How would she get the letters out of the YFZ Ranch?

Maybe Sarah gave them to one of the boys being cast out.
Maybe he got them to Flora Jessop, or Carolyn, or Rosita, or a CPS worker somewhere.

For all we know, a CPS worker got them from a Lost Boy, and Rosita stole them from their offices, while on a visit.

There are many ways it could happen, but they are all pretty far-fetched.

I think we will have to wait until (and if) the evidence is revealed in trial, about the phone calls, about the details on Sarah, and whether it was really Dale Barlow, or Merrill Jessop that was the alleged abuser, to know.


“Or did they say they were looking for 16 y/o Sarah, who was “spiritually married” to Dale what’s his name in Arizona?”

I addressed that in another post, but It might have been on another thread.

Since I don’t know their exact words, I can’t say.
The CPS may not have mentioned Dale Barlow to the children, just a pregnant Sarah that was 16. That would seem the most logical thing.
To the parents, they would be asking about the location of both.

IIRC, the adults denied there was any girl named Sarah at the compound.
The children, when told she was 16 and pregnant, said that she had been at the Ranch two weeks ago, but they hadn’t seen her since.

So, there’s a take it all with a grain of salt answer.


“Would have had to, since she was reporting on things going on in the shelters that weren’t public knowledge at the time.”

Yeah. Not general public, but was it available publicly somewhere?

One can search put in a name on the internet and see if someone has been a defendant and found guilty, in court.

Or, maybe Rosita (knowing that she has had a long term ‘relationship’ with CPS), might have had a way of getting inside information.

Again, lot’s of speculation, little proven fact.


I still think most of the obfuscation over the en masse nature of the removal of the children is merely an attempt to cloud the issue of whether the FLDS currently practiced child-bride marriages, and any other illegal practices such as violation of child labor laws, interstate trafficking of children, violations of the civil rights of the mothers and children to remain with their biological parents.

A question I have is, why did CPS have to get a warrant to investigate complaints?

Was it due to FLDS not allowing them in to do any investigating?

I do believe WELFARE had been in investigating, and they were the ones that filed the original complaint with CPS that led to getting a warrant.

So, those who claim the phone call was the ‘only’ reason for the warrant, cannot be correct.

This thing is such a mess. I still hope it comes out for the best.


51 posted on 06/09/2008 6:38:00 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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