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Texas Gov. takes blame if FLDS raid 'stepped across some legal line'
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 06/06/2008 02:15:33 PM MDT | Dallas Morning News

Posted on 06/08/2008 8:41:46 AM PDT by TLI

Texas Gov. takes blame if FLDS raid 'stepped across some legal line'
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 06/06/2008 02:15:33 PM MDT


Texas Gov. Rick Perry says he accepts personal blame if Texas "stepped across some legal line" in its raid on a polygamous ranch, while at the same time defending the removal of more than 400 children from the FLDS' Yearning for Zion Ranch in April.

In a report today in the Dallas Morning News, Perry said, "I still think that the state of Texas has an obligation to young women who are forced into marriage and underage sex - to protect them. That's my bottom line on this."

Perry made the comments during a visit to France today, according to the News.

The newspaper quoted the governor as saying he hopes state law enforcement officials and prosecutors "continue to send the message" to the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints that child sexual abuse won't be tolerated.


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: flds; governor; texas; yfz
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1 posted on 06/08/2008 8:41:47 AM PDT by TLI
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To: TLI

I wonder if Perry accepts personal liability, too.


2 posted on 06/08/2008 8:45:24 AM PDT by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: TLI

Good! At least he has courage. I think the state was absolutely right to do this, and I hope this bunch takes his invitation and gets out - although personally, I think as the investigation goes on, there will be criminal charges against them and many of these children may have to be taken to safe places again.

My question is who wants them? Does official Mormonism want to invite them to Utah? Or maybe the Muslims would like to have them come live in Detroit.


3 posted on 06/08/2008 8:49:04 AM PDT by livius
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To: srweaver
I wonder if Perry accepts personal liability, too.

Well, since the Texas Supreme Court found the action taken by CPS was not warranted by the evidence I suspect Gov. Perry is smelling the lawsuits headed their way. Let’s see, when is he up for re-election?

4 posted on 06/08/2008 8:54:15 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

Stated as if it’s not possible to get to the “good stuff”.


5 posted on 06/08/2008 9:08:04 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TLI

IF they stepped over the line? All charges dropped, all prisoners freed? For a raid based on an anomymous tip from out of STATE? IF???


6 posted on 06/08/2008 9:28:41 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: 2harddrive

Perry is a reformed Democrat turned GOPer. To me he is a do gooder with a nice suit on. How much incest and family rape is being ignored in the ghettoes and barrios of Houston by his agents?


7 posted on 06/08/2008 9:33:17 AM PDT by doosee
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To: livius

Unfortunately, Perry wouldn’t know courage if it came and bit him on the butt!


8 posted on 06/08/2008 9:47:38 AM PDT by longhorn too
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To: TLI

“if”?

thrown out by two higher courts?


9 posted on 06/08/2008 9:58:20 AM PDT by wardaddy (it's hot as hell again in Dixie)
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To: longhorn too

This is all too funny. Looks like Perry is looking to get a few votes and setting himself up against a “srawman” of a weird cult. If this causes the Break away Mormon cult to dump Warren Jeffs and underage ‘marriages’ maybe some good will come out of this mess.


10 posted on 06/08/2008 10:02:57 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
to dump Warren Jeffs and underage ‘marriages’

If they do that (and they said they would "obey Texas Law") then they would no longer be called a "cult." Perry would loose his boogie-man, the FLDS could stop paying taxes to the county and when they all get registered to vote they can get rid of Judge Walthers.

11 posted on 06/08/2008 10:35:43 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

I think it’s pretty clear that the state is quite right in its suspicions as to what is going on with this cult.

The present laws are not well suited for dealing with such organized abuse. The answer is to change the laws to something that works, not to ignore the present laws in the service of a “higher good.”


12 posted on 06/08/2008 12:41:51 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Sherman Logan
I have had “issues” with Rick Perry thru out the years. As I have with most politicians. I have gained more respect for him in the stance he has taken on this. He is not a “shoe in” in 2010, just as he eked out a narrow victory in 2008. He didn't try to distance himself from the situation.

The suspicion was more than warranted. Just last week the FLDS spokesman said they will abide by the laws of the state (translation=we won't do that no more).

The execution was poor. But, I believe, the criminal investigation continues.

13 posted on 06/08/2008 4:04:16 PM PDT by berdie
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To: livius
Good! At least he has courage

Yeah right, the same courage Tony Blair showed when he apopologised for the Irish Potato Famine.

Perry is positioning himself to jump whichever way the wind blows

14 posted on 06/08/2008 4:14:37 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Society is well governed when the people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law)
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To: livius

“Does official Mormonism want to invite them to Utah?”

The FLDS dislike/distrusts the “official” Mormon church about as much as they do the Baptists. At least that’s what I’ve heard.


15 posted on 06/08/2008 7:49:44 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: TLI

Did you hear that the TX gov mansion burned down?


16 posted on 06/08/2008 7:50:23 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Sherman Logan

According to the Constitution, we still have freedom of association, freedom of religion and free speech - all of which the state of TX tried to stomp all over.

I read an article saying Warren Jeffs’ lawyers filed a petition to quash all evidence extracted as a result of the raid on the FLDS because all the “evidence” was tainted due to it being seized as a result of a false report.


17 posted on 06/08/2008 7:54:49 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln”

Your tag line seems to contradict your stand on the FLDS.


18 posted on 06/08/2008 7:56:02 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Oztrich Boy

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1421496/jeffs_defense_wants_all_raid_evidence_left_out_of_his/

I’m posting another thread on this - Warren Jeffs asks to quash all evidence gained during the FLDS raid - cuz it was obtained illegally. Here we go . . . .


19 posted on 06/08/2008 7:59:13 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I’m not sure why you think so.

The tagline could apply either to the women and children denied freedom by the asshole leaders of the FLDS.

Or to the denial of freedom to the FLDS members by the state.

It is more than obvious to me that the FLDS, like the original LDS of the 19th century (not today’s LDS) before it, is based on institionalized abuse of women and children.

Our presnt legal system is unfortunately not well suited to handling these cases. The remedy is to change the law so that it works, not to ignore the law, pretending that it says what we think it should.


20 posted on 06/08/2008 8:07:17 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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