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Viewpoint: U.S. money not answer in Mexico (Violence Coming to Your Neighborhood)
ivpressonline.com ^ | Thursday, June 5, 2008 10:37 PM PDT | Maria Elena Salinas

Posted on 06/06/2008 1:52:32 PM PDT by OKIEDOC

Mexico is beginning to look like a real war zone. The headlines in the news media are reminiscent of those from some of the most brutal days of the Iraq War. They speak of executions, beheadings, cryptic messages and dozens of people killed in a single day. But the war against drugs that Mexico is waging is not one that can easily eliminate the enemies. snip The Mexican government has made the fight against drugs its No. 1 priority.snip The rival drug cartels are killing each other off, law enforcement agents are hunting down drug dealers, and their hit men are striking back with callous brutality. snip but so far this year there have been more than 1,300 drug-related murders, more than 70 percent of them in the northern states. May was the deadliest month in the past five years, with anywhere from 350 to 400 people killed. snip

snip The U.S. has spent $16.7 billion on its own war against drugs since 2001, and the Bush administration claims to have successfully reduced the consumption of drugs among youth during that time by 23 percent. But the United States is still the main consumer of drugs in the world, and transit and drug-producing countries have demanded that it take its fair share of responsibility in combating the problem.

While there might be strong evidence to support that claim, a few million U.S. dollars are not going to put much of a dent in Mexico’s war against powerful and deadly drug cartels until the Mexicans take major steps toward taking back the institutions they have virtually handed over to organized crime during the past two decades.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: drugs; enemy; immigration; mexico; mexicoisnotanally; money; warzone; wod; wodlist
This is the result of decades of negligence on the part of Mexican law enforcement and a weak judicial system that allows them to literally get away with murder.

In a recent editorial, the Mexican newspaper El Universal snip puts part of the blame on the U.S. government: “Ninety percent of the weapons that reach Mexican drug traffickers come from the U.S. border cities of Nogales, El Paso and Yuma. However, they are invisible to U.S. authorities who are too busy pursuing undocumented workers,” claims the paper.

The Mexican drug cartels did not gain such fire power and organizational skills overnight. The government has been forced to admit that organized crime has infiltrated both law-enforcement and government agencies. Former officers and federal agents have become hit men for the cartels. Local and state politicians are paid to turn a blind eye to major drug deals.

Comment:

The situation South of our unguarded border is getting worse and not better.

It's time to be concerned, very concerned.

1 posted on 06/06/2008 1:52:32 PM PDT by OKIEDOC
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To: OKIEDOC
“Ninety percent of the weapons that reach Mexican drug traffickers come from the U.S. border cities of Nogales, El Paso and Yuma.

Maybe Mexico should build a wall to keep out the evil gringo guns.

2 posted on 06/06/2008 1:58:28 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: OKIEDOC

It is coming time to go after Pancho Villa once again. This time we use predators for a start.


3 posted on 06/06/2008 2:00:09 PM PDT by arthurus
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DuncanWaring wrote:
Maybe Mexico should build a wall to keep out the evil gringo guns.

Comment:

A doctor friend of ours down in Mexicali said that very same thing a couple of weeks ago in reference to Obama becoming El Presidente.

4 posted on 06/06/2008 2:05:15 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. ABORTION-The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: arthurus

“It is coming time to go after Pancho Villa once again. This time we use predators for a start.”

Check this out, arthurus. This is what we need on the border. Does NO harm, but it sure stops ‘em!

Active Denial System

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D0U7mfsa9Y

http://www.defense-update.com/products/a/ads.htm


5 posted on 06/06/2008 2:11:13 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: arthurus
arthurus wrote:
It is coming time to go after Pancho Villa once again. This time we use predators for a start.

Comment:

Hum!!!!!

Some may think that a silly idea.

But for self preservation it may be the only way the Southwest survives.

6 posted on 06/06/2008 2:21:45 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. ABORTION-The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: OKIEDOC
There are plenty of reports of gang violence south of the border. According to this Daily Telegraph Article:
Since January, more than 1,300 people have been killed in execution-style hits or gunned down in fire fights, which often rage for hours in broad daylight and turn residential neighbourhoods into war zones. If the trend continues, 2008 will top last year's toll of 2,500 deaths in drug-related killings.
You don't hear so much about Americans at the Border. Too bad.

Americans are regularly abused. According to this article entitled US Warns Tourists of 'Small-Unit Combat' at Mexico Border -- Murder and kidnapping of Americans has become routine all along the US Mexican border. According to the State Department sometimes heavily armed attackers wear the uniforms of the Mexican police or military.

If there is silence about events at the border. The silence about killings north of the border is deafening. And yet....

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty. The answer is to that question is pretty awful. And it bodes ill for the republic.

But is it true?

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans--but by no means all -- being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Why isn't there an outcry in the black community? Beats me.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. If you check the links you'll notice that its McCain who cites Chertoff. See also here and here Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens.


7 posted on 06/06/2008 2:59:29 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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Thanks for the excellent information.

To bad that our American government is so politically correct that it fails to recognize the current danger at our borders.

8 posted on 06/06/2008 3:55:05 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. ABORTION-The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: AuntB

You have to see them first to use those things. And I was not referring to the wetbacks but to the drug organizations. I don’t even like to call them “gangs” because that almost trivializes them. They are armed forces and they are fighting it out among themselves. The winner will take over Mexico. It is time for some spec ops work in Mexico, hellfires and predators.


9 posted on 06/06/2008 6:17:03 PM PDT by arthurus
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