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Computer Help Needed
Myself | 06/01/2008 | TheMom

Posted on 06/01/2008 8:33:05 PM PDT by TheMom

This afternoon my husband set up a computer for the kids. Once everything was set up, he checked to make sure all computers were connected to the net via the router. All looked great!

Then one of the kids downloaded some type of crap that has caused our internet connection to be kaput. I contacted our internet provider – after testing they determined that the problem was not within the cable box. (Each computer can connect to the internet if hooked up directly to the cable box). They gave me the customer service number to the router company ~ the gal said they could check to see if it was a router problem. The customer service lady for Linksys said that since our router is about eight years old it was out of warranty, but for a mere $32.95 they could have a tech check out the problem. (After a few colorful words from my husband) We went out and purchased a new router for $25.00.

The problem still exist. (I have not yet recontacted the router company.)

Each individual system can connect to the internet via the cable box. When all systems are connected to the router, there is no internet connection.

We have tried the basic turn it off, turn it on again ~ with no luck.

Does anyone have a clue how to fix this problem?


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: internet; routers
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To: TheMom

Easy Mom . . . . . . . one thing at a time . . . . . . . one thing at a time : )


81 posted on 06/01/2008 9:15:27 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: Cold Heat
Mac's ain't perfect either. I understand they recently proved the OS could be hacked in 30 seconds or less......LOL.

There was one defect in the Safari browser that allowed this. It was quickly fixed. In practice, the spyware/virus problem on Mac is almost nonexistent. Believe me, I've used every version of Windows since 3.1, and every version of MacOS and OS X. There is simply no way Windows can compare to the worry-free robustness of OS X.

-ccm

82 posted on 06/01/2008 9:16:19 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: cynwoody
It might be your router. It is what your PC thinks is your router. But if their Windows is setup with static IP addresses, the router could be sitting there at some other address, wondering why no one wants to talk to it.
83 posted on 06/01/2008 9:16:23 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: TheMom

I use Bit Torrent for tunes. Yeah it takes over the connection, but it pipes the tunes in fast too and it doesnt seem to be intrusive


84 posted on 06/01/2008 9:16:37 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TheMom
Each individual system can connect to the internet via the cable box. When all systems are connected to the router, there is no internet connection.

Power down the internet connection.

Power down thew router

Bring the internet connection up fully

Bring up the router.

If this doesn't bring everything up then press the reset button on your router for a solid 30 seconds (this resets it to default, usually (if it's cisco then yes)) and repeat the power down / power up cycle above.

85 posted on 06/01/2008 9:16:48 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: TheMom

Does your router have a “reset” button on it? Sometimes its nothing more then a hole you could stick a paperclip in. Look around the router and if you find one, while its plugged in hit the reset and see if that helps. Lots of times this can clear up router problems.


86 posted on 06/01/2008 9:17:43 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: TheMom

Google “BEFSR41”. Most of the issues cited in the Linksys usergroups I found were X-box (or other game) related, and what was really weird was that AFTER an X-box session crapped out, they couldn’t get the router to work again! (I am a totally ordinary user, no videogames, just want to have one or more computers hooked up just so I don’t have to shut one or the other off & reset the modem) Which I found very strange. At some point I just decided I couldn’t spend any more time on it, which was essentially the consensus of anyone who had gotten fed up w/the Linksys.


87 posted on 06/01/2008 9:17:55 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ()OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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To: TheMom
I think that I may have found the problem. And you will probably wind up with even more problems because of it...

2) Linksys 10/100 5-port workgroup switch

A "switch" is also sometimes called a "hub" which is a "dumb" device that connects computers and other network devices together. A "router" is an intelligent device that can also act as a firewall, which protects your home network.

If you have a switch, depending on your Internet service, only 1 computer will have the ability to get on the Internet, and it will be completely exposed to the Internet. SO TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTERS RIGHT NOW!This assumes that you only get a single IP address from your ISP. What you need is to buy a router, like a Linksys, SMC, Netgear, or any of a number of others. But don't throw away your Linksys Switch... Most routers have a 4 port switch built in, but if you need more than just 4 ports, you can "daisy chain" your 5 port linksys switch to the router you're going to buy. That will give you 7 usable ports. On the other hand, if you won't be needing more than 4 ports, you might be able to return the linsys switch for a refund.

But what you definitely need is a router.

Mark

88 posted on 06/01/2008 9:18:14 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: TheMom
I’m not sure what you said . . . but I think I need to exchange the new thingie for a different thingie. ;-)

L0L!! Night Kiddo

89 posted on 06/01/2008 9:18:19 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TheMom
Hook your old router back up. that thing you bought is likely the wrong device for you particular setup.

Let the new computer try to hookup on it's own after a reboot, if it does not hookup, it will prompt you for a security key for you router and enter it if you have one. Make sure you get it letter perfect or it will not work.

Your router initially came with a setup disk. If you still have it, use it to add your new computer to the network. It makes it easier for a novice user.... If not....It is fairly simple to do it manually. I, or someone here could guide you through the process. Just need to know what OS you are using, like XP, win 2000, or Vista.

90 posted on 06/01/2008 9:19:26 PM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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To: TheMom
Nevermind all my nerd chatter ... the key thing I'm trying to figure out next is exactly what make and model number that new router is.

So far all I've seen is "GEB-blah,blah, blah", which is (sorry) not exactly exact enough.

91 posted on 06/01/2008 9:19:31 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: mylife

My whole system is wired through my teen’s computer and that stupid Limewire (Who is being sued btw) messed up everything.
Took me at least 10 hours and countless mindless conversations with people from other countries on a time delay.
Couldn’t understand a Freaking word they said!

I fnally figured it out myself, you have to reset you IP address ultimately. I am just a Mom too.
As far as your kids go, throttle them if they download anything without permission!!
Try Webroot Spy Sweeper and AVG Virus download.
Through the Microsoftstuff you can put major blocks on everything, write it down and keep it somewhere safe.


92 posted on 06/01/2008 9:19:38 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: TheMom

It won’t hurt the router but reset just one thing at a time otherwise it’s hard to diagnose what’s happening. Limewire CAN create problems and has done so on my network. Could you provide a little more info on the router make and model number. As one poster mentioned earlier if you have only a switch and not a router with a built in switch THAT may be your problem.


93 posted on 06/01/2008 9:19:41 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: SouthTexas; TheMom

I have comcast/RR with a linsky router and have no problems with running 3 or 4 puters at a time. Just my 2 cents worth. Does sound like a router problem though.


94 posted on 06/01/2008 9:20:27 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: acapesket

limewire sucks


95 posted on 06/01/2008 9:21:55 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ThePythonicCow; GravityFree

The model # of the new “thingie” (not so sure it is a router anymore) is EZXS55W.

The box states:
10/100
5-Port
Workgroup Switch
Enjoy Full-Deplux, Dedicated Bandwidth in a Compact, Modular Design
Each port independently detects 10Mbps or 100Mbps speed
Seamless integration with your existing 10BaseT, 100BseTX or 10/100 network
Channels full-duplex, dedicated bandwithe to each prot for sptimal performance.

*whew*


96 posted on 06/01/2008 9:22:36 PM PDT by TheMom (My baby just graduated from High School - send money for college!)
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To: MarkL
Good point ... perhaps too late ;).

I setup one of my relatives with a switch yesterday, but they were running Mac's, not Windows. A Windows box exposed to the internet is like an unlocked car left unattended in downtown Detroit at 3 am. Time to breakin is measured in seconds, not minutes.

The plot thickens ...

97 posted on 06/01/2008 9:23:15 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: TheMom

its a switch


98 posted on 06/01/2008 9:23:59 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TheMom

I almost forgot to mention th4e reason why your computer likely lost it’s connection. The router alows a connectio to the new network for a specific lenth of time, usually in minutes. This gives you time to do the setup necessary for the security protocol. After the time expires, it loses it’s connection automatically unless you have done the setup. This is normal. It is how the security is maitained in a network. Your computer essentially lost it’s lease on the router and you need to set it up to maintain this lease.


99 posted on 06/01/2008 9:24:09 PM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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To: TheMom
sptimal performance?
100 posted on 06/01/2008 9:25:21 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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