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Watching Hussein's Speech Tonight: I Am Almost Persuaded To Work For McCain
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| 5/20/08
| Recovering_Democrat
Posted on 05/20/2008 7:42:41 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: driftless2
Most people, myself included, know that McCain is weak on illegal immigration and a lot of other issues. Thats not the point.
Weak is an understatement. Supporting amnesty for illegals is a dangerous policy that will make it easier for terrorists to enter this country by posing as illegals. National security and McCain's policy that threatens our security is precisely the point. Failing to enforce our laws as he would be required to do as President will only exacerbate the chaos we have for not enforcing our immigration laws in the first place. A nation without laws will cease to exist.
The point is that despite all of McCains weaknesses hes still a much stronger candidate than what the Dems have.
What you euphemistically call "weaknesses" are in reality socialist positions. You can spin it anyway you want but McCain has consistently chosen to associate himself over the years with socialist Democrats to support socialist causes.
Ill repeat: many elections come down to choosing the least worst candidate, not the best. McCain is the least worst.
When the lesser of two evils becomes the ordinary choice, it becomes a slippery slope and the result is always the greater evil. You never see the socialist Democrats in a predicament of choosing between two conservative candidates because they are never willing to sacrifice their beliefs yet conservatives are expected to cede their principles. Doing so only makes matters worse as we have seen with the GOP strategy over the years. I will never submit to that self defeating strategy.
And that might mean with McCain as president, were far less likely to see another twin towers or similar catastrophe.
That would only be true if McCain would stop insisting on amnesty for illegals thereby making it easier for terrorists to destroy us from within our own borders.
Your continual attempt to downplay McCain's insistence of placating socialists by rationalizing some how socialism can be stopped by accepting a little more socialism with each succeeding election has the opposite effect. It empowers socialists with the result being increasingly socialist candidates like McCain. It's a merry go round that never stops with the line of reasoning you and unfortunately many others have conned themselves into believing. The only way to get off the ride is by standing firm on conservative principles.
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posted on
05/23/2008 3:58:37 AM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: Man50D
Whether you vote for McCain or don’t vote, you’ll have made a choice. McCain is not nearly the socialist you think he is, so stop the McCain-is-a-socialist nonsense. He’s actually more conservative than Nixon. He’s wrong on some major issues, but to call him a socialist (like many others on this forum) makes a mockery of the word socialist. In your definition apparently a socialist is anyone who doesn’t agree you with you. And I’m sure you’ll be hsppy with a real socialist, Obama, as president.
To: Recovering_Democrat
As much as I have my issues with Juan McVain, listening to Barack Hussein Osbama is about to drive me to phone banking for the McCain campaign.
To: driftless2
We didn’t have to force democracy on them. Bye the end of the war, the people of those nations, by and large, were ready to work with those that had defeated them in order to forge a better future for their nations. They also were never people that were self-destructive. They were always a productive, industrious, and resourceful people. We didn’t make them that way. They already were. At the start of WWll, Germany had many of the best engineers, mathematicians, architects, etc.....in the world. They were driven by the ideology of nationalism, not dying for their depraved view of a God that tells them to kill in his name. Big Difference.
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posted on
05/23/2008 9:52:19 AM PDT
by
LaurenD
To: driftless2
McCain is not nearly the socialist you think he is, so stop the McCain-is-a-socialist nonsense.
McCain actively sought out the socialist Democrats in 2001 when he was considering becoming a member of that party. He was considered by socialist John Kerry as a potential VP running mate in 2004. He has been funded by communist billionaire George Soros. He sponsored bills that restricted free speech (McCain-Feingold), the fallacy of human induced global warming(Lieberman-McCain Stewardship Climate Act), amnesty for illegal aliens(McCain-Kennedy)all with staunch socialists. This doesn't include McCain scheduled to speak to the illegal alien supporting group La Raza who wants the western part of the U.S. to be part of Mexico. He recently stated is against drilling in ANWR and admonished his own party by defending Marxist Obama because the North Carolina GOP ran an ad against Obama.
That's not nonsense. It's fact because it is McCain's history. You can bury your head in the sand by choosing to ignore his history but those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it.
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posted on
05/23/2008 10:08:16 AM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: Recovering_Democrat
If you all read no other post understand this:
If the GOP leadership come to the conclusion that we will vote for anyone who is just slightly to the right of whatever wicked evil the Democrats put forth, and we do it, vote FOR a just slightly lesser evil... then that is all we will ever get. A slightly to the right of FAR LEFT candidates. We either take this stand now, and bite the hard bitter bullet or McCain is the furthest to the right this party will ever again be.
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posted on
05/23/2008 12:24:43 PM PDT
by
RachelFaith
(Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
To: RachelFaith
Rachel, I understand what you’re saying...I am also relating the disturbance I had when hearing Barack Hussein Obama give his “victory” speech in Iowa the other night.
I am struggling with this mightily.
To: Man50D
sure, it has happened incrementally. and we will have to work incrementally to get them back
you can vote for whomever you want, but either barak obama or mccain will be the next president. You are in denial if you think otherwise.
I am a conservative. I wanted Thompson. gave him 1000 bucks.
this is like the SAT. It is multiple choice, not essay. You must choose the best answer (there is no perfect answer). If you make no choice, then it is considered a wrong answer.
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posted on
06/04/2008 8:47:43 PM PDT
by
brannon
(we are all dying; some of us faster than others)
To: brannon
You are in denial if you think otherwise.
Voting for either socialist would be a denial of my conservative principles.
this is like the SAT. It is multiple choice, not essay. You must choose the best answer (there is no perfect answer). If you make no choice, then it is considered a wrong answer.
One of those multiple choice answers is to support and vote for conservatives. The other choices are so far from being perfect they can't even be classified as an acceptable answer let alone anywhere near perfect.
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posted on
06/05/2008 3:31:03 AM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: Man50D
there is no true viable conservative running for president. so it is NOT one of the multiple choices.
rephrase:
either Obama or McCain will be your next president. pick one. if you can’t understand that then there is nothing further to say.
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posted on
06/05/2008 6:05:41 PM PDT
by
brannon
(we are all dying; some of us faster than others)
To: brannon
there is no true viable conservative running for president. so it is NOT one of the multiple choices. rephrase:
The RATS and the GOP thank you for buying their socialist cr*p.
either Obama or McCain will be your next president. pick one. if you cant understand that then there is nothing further to say.
Rephrase:
Neither socialist will be my choice. I will vote for a conservative. If you can't understand standing firm on conservative principles is paramount instead of ceding a little more of your personal freedoms each time you support and vote for a socialist then you are posting at the wrong website.
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posted on
06/05/2008 7:12:08 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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