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To: neverdem; The Mayor; Silly; areafiftyone; BunnySlippers; PhiKapMom; Reagan Man; NapkinUser; ...

Thought you might be interested. I’d love to hear your comments.


2 posted on 05/20/2008 8:25:16 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear, on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Long but fascinating.

Envision this when you hear people talk about how wonderful it would be to do away with all guns. Especially in places like Chicago, if you get my drift.

3 posted on 05/20/2008 8:43:49 AM PDT by CharlieOK1 (Don't tax me, bro!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; don-o
Born, raised, lived and worked in NYC for almost 60 years before I moved to America. The descriptions given above are OK, but they only scratch the surface of what went on during that period. Even the uber-liberal Sen. Patrick Moynihan concluded that the only answer was to just “write off” at least one generation of black population.

Of course the fact that I am a white male saying this will forever brand me as a racist, but I'm too old to give a damn anymore.

5 posted on 05/20/2008 8:59:38 AM PDT by Roccus (Able Danger??? What's an Able Danger?????)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Magnificent article. I fled Manhattan (East Village) in 1971 after armed black thugs entered a Polish bar in the next building and, without any reason other than hatred and anger, opened fire and murdered the owner, his wife and three patrons.

We found a refuge in New Jersey for many years and I am horrified that Corzine, an ultra liberal NJSC (The Mount Laurel decision) and the Council on Affordable Housing want to place low income projects with their crime, negative effect on property values and general blight in my town and every town in this state.


9 posted on 05/20/2008 9:36:38 AM PDT by Postman
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I never went anywhere in NYC unarmed from @ 1974-1988. It took a long time after that for me to phase out the weapon.

Everyone in NYC in 1978 was tough, you had to be.

11 posted on 05/20/2008 9:47:09 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
There are millions of stories about living in the Big Apple. I was born in NYC and can't deny that my hometown was in serious trouble by the mid-1970`s. Serious enough for me to pack up and move. The Brooklyn I grew up in was gone.

I'd say in general terms, what almost killed off NYC were years and decades of growing liberalism. Liberal policy that created dependency on government and allowed good neighborhoods to become ghettos and slums. While crime was a huge problem, it didn't directly effect all parts of the city. Not everyone was being mugged, robbed or raped on the F-train.

Mayor Giuliani may have cleaned up NYC, but it remains a liberal bastion to this day. Everyone I grew up with has moved away from NYC. Some ran to south Jersey or Long Island. Some moved to places like Tennessee, Florida, Montana and Colorado.

After 30+ years away from my old hometown, I can honestly say I miss the some of the culture, like the restaurants and the beaches. Having said that, NYC is more liberal today then it ever was. I'll visit NYC and the surrounding areas from time to time. Otherwise, I say no thanks.

12 posted on 05/20/2008 9:56:12 AM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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"They sought “the privileges, and the free ways of barbarism, under the protection of civilized order, property rights, refined technological organization, and so on.” But you can have only one or the other."

this is what I have been trying to scream at the top of my lungs.....you can't condone public indecency or "allow" perversions to be legalized and expect our society to remain lawful....actions have consequences..(naked barristtas ping)

16 posted on 05/20/2008 12:33:01 PM PDT by cherry
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