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Common Myths for the Macintosh
David Alison's Blog ^ | 05/06/2008 | David Alison

Posted on 05/16/2008 12:31:37 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: dangus
"#1 reason: I can get a PC for $400."

Not with a legal copy of Windows, probably. And I'd bet there's a bunch of "sweat equity" that goes into such a purchase. Not everyone has the time, desire or skills to be an uber-geek.

Meanwhile, you can get a Mac Mini for not much more, and it's a heck of a great machine.

Besides, you're talking price. Let's talk value.
41 posted on 05/16/2008 1:36:45 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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To: antiRepublicrat
"It's like getting a $20 hooker -- you get what you pay for, and often far more than you wanted."

Post of the day. That's a keeper, thanks.
42 posted on 05/16/2008 1:37:38 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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To: ALPAPilot
My only complaint is that I have the Oxford English Dictionary on CD-ROM.

Macs come with a built-in New Oxford American Dictionary. Just type the word in Spotlight and click on the Dictionary result. From there you can also look it up in the thesaurus or Wikipedia with one more click.

43 posted on 05/16/2008 1:44:31 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Spktyr

Yes yes,

Very cute, very expensive, very Apple.

Just for you I went to Apple.com:

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Two 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Harpertown” processors
2GB memory (800MHz DDR2 fully-buffered DIMM ECC)
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You’re frigging nuts!

I could have a faster 10,000 RPM HDDs and have two of them running RAID 0, faster processor 3.2 GHz, faster and more powerful GPU (twice the memory and faster), twice the RAM that has a lower latency (LAT3)....... and still be UNDER the price of the Apple!

And that’s using ATI GPU, Corsair 4GB RAM 800MHz LAT3, WD HDDs, Intel core...... http://www.newegg.com


44 posted on 05/16/2008 1:50:16 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Swordmaker
My main reasons for disliking MAC are for non-technical reasons:

1. Most MAC users are obnoxious a**holes about their MACs vs. PC. They will never admit that a PC can be good.
2. 90% of MAC users are flaming libs.
3. The company's marketing is geared toward the environmental elitist crowd.
4. Did I mention obnoxious a**holes?
5. Most are caught up in status over technology.

I am sure I could think of others.
45 posted on 05/16/2008 1:51:52 PM PDT by Codeflier (No way in Hell I will vote for McCain - under any circumstance imaginable!)
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To: Red6
Behind the pretty plastic of an Apple is a circut board made in China, a chipset, guts of a monitor, HDD, power supply, RAM, that is made by firms with names that have little to do with “apple,” other than they screw the stuff topgether and stick their logo on it.

That is true for most manufacturers. The company asks "what can you give us" and builds a box using that. But Apple works closely with their manufacturers, stretching their abilities, asking "how can you change to give us what we want" and has that built. Apple has actually invented new manufacturing techniques and had the manufacturers switch to those for their products.

The product design team led by Jonathan Ive spends a lot of its time overseas making sure those manufacturers can make the design vision come true. Plus they work closely with the engineers so that what you get is never just a bunch of junk haphazardly crammed into a pretty shell. A lot of money is spent to make sure design, engineering and manufacturing work closely together. Other OEMs spend very little money on such things.

46 posted on 05/16/2008 1:52:37 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: JamesP81
Probably because a lot of that stuff runs software written in Java.

Java is a core API of OS X. Every OS X Mac has it.

47 posted on 05/16/2008 1:54:43 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Red6
If you want quality or high end dedicated performace you buy a PC or build one yourself.

Some of us would rather work than tinker. I want a machine that will run the top of the line video editing and graphics software with a minimum of crashes, hangups and slowdowns. I don't have the time or background to build my own car, house, washing machine, telephone or computer, so I look for the best that is commercially available that I can afford. In a computer, that happens to be a Mac.

What is the point of telling someone to build their own computer? If they haven't done it by now, they're probably not inclined to, so I guess you're just trying to show us how wonderful you are.

48 posted on 05/16/2008 1:56:59 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (ANWR would look great in pumps.)
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To: Swordmaker

I am reading this on a PC and doing just fine.


49 posted on 05/16/2008 1:58:36 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: JamesP81
Which would require Bootcamp, because motherboards in Macs have BIOS that isn't intended to boot Windows. I think I'll run my OS on hardware that was designed for it.

They don't have 30 year-old BIOS, they have the new EFI with BIOS compatibility. Windows has been EFI native for the Itanium platform for years, but it has recently crept into the x86-64 world with the 64-bit Server 2008 and Vista SP1.

50 posted on 05/16/2008 2:02:31 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Moose4
The only really “special” thing about Macs is that they have a much better operating system than anything Microsquish puts out. The hardware nowadays isn’t really any better or different than what goes in a Wintel box.

I think you could make Windows just as stable and reliable as OSX. All you would have to do is start with a known quantity hardware platform and optimize the OS for that specific hardware.

It's simply a question of whether you're willing to pay the extra cost for the MAC and live with the limitations of having to wait for them to catch up with new hardware technology before you can use it.

On average, the MAC will be more reliable and more stable than the PC, but there is a cost and there's more to it than just the difference in purchase price.

51 posted on 05/16/2008 2:09:13 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Golden Eagle
The other problem I have with Apple is the difficulty in getting apps to use the full screen, especially the browser. Minor problems indeed, but no O/S is perfect.

That is not so much something that is broke but a purposeful design decision for the UI that some like and some don't. The "maximize" ("size to screen") button on OS X is really more like "size to content." The idea is that you're in an environment designed to use multiple windows you don't need to pretend you only have one, but you will often want your window to fit the content. Full screen also can freak out newbies ("Where did everything else go?!"). Pro applications designed to need maximum space often do have a full-screen mode though.

It's just differences in what designers think the best UI design is, and IMHO Apple's is the better way. I don't know the hard UI research on this specific area, so I can't say Apple's way is absolutely better or worse, just opinion.

52 posted on 05/16/2008 2:21:12 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: tacticalogic
willing to pay the extra cost for the MAC and live with the limitations of having to wait for them to catch up with new hardware technology before you can use it.

That one's been going both ways lately. Apple has been notorious for being late on video cards, but they seem to be getting the latest Intel CPUs and chipsets before anyone else.

53 posted on 05/16/2008 2:28:37 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Codeflier
3. The company's marketing is geared toward the environmental elitist crowd.

Yet Apple always gets slammed by the environmental groups not because their products and practices aren't environmentally friendly, but because they don't kowtow to the groups.

54 posted on 05/16/2008 2:31:32 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Swordmaker

My CD-ROM is the Complete Oxford English Dictionary (20 volumes when printed out). I’ve tried using it with Virtual PC, but my understanding is that the copyright protections are at a level that prevent it from running on Virtual PC. I have an older iBook so I don’t have the intel chip. I was using Windows 98, but if it would work Virtual PC running XP, then I might give it a shot.


55 posted on 05/16/2008 2:32:21 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Spktyr

It’s like buying a Smart car and then popping the engine doing 80 in the fast lane.


56 posted on 05/16/2008 2:34:16 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Spktyr
I have the full OED on CD-ROM, and that does not run on MAC.

Available in a single-user PC version only. No network version available. No Mac version available. For information on the online version, please contact worldinfo@oed.com or visit www.oed.com

57 posted on 05/16/2008 2:35:59 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Codeflier
My main reasons for disliking MAC are for non-technical reasons:

1. Most MAC users are obnoxious a**holes about their MACs vs. PC. They will never admit that a PC can be good.
2. 90% of MAC users are flaming libs.
3. The company's marketing is geared toward the environmental elitist crowd.
4. Did I mention obnoxious a**holes?
5. Most are caught up in status over technology.

I am sure I could think of others.


I don't see any presumptuousness or projection here. None at all. Nope. [/sarcasm]
58 posted on 05/16/2008 2:38:03 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Swordmaker
Forget the Mac and keep your $400 PC

How to Install Leopard on your PC in 3 easy steps!

59 posted on 05/16/2008 2:41:44 PM PDT by Bommer (There's an (R) next to his name! I must trash my principles & beliefs and vote for the (R)!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
That one's been going both ways lately. Apple has been notorious for being late on video cards, but they seem to be getting the latest Intel CPUs and chipsets before anyone else.

I'd expect there to be pretty close to parity on the CPU and support chipsets from the CPU manufacturer. It becomes less of an issue as more stuff gets integrated into those chipsets. If you want to play with the bleeding edge stuff, you're probably out of luck.

As long as they stay focused and committed to the platform, they won't be too far behind. If they decide there's more money to be made in pocket toys you could find yourself falling behind pretty easily. When Jobs retires, the next guy might have different ideas.

60 posted on 05/16/2008 2:54:20 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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