Posted on 05/16/2008 12:31:37 PM PDT by Swordmaker
I did say “most”, not all. Just having fun with the Mac crowd here on Free Republic. Nothing personal...enjoy your Mac.
I liked the irony.
You mean Mac's. 3 of em. One in the basement, one on the ground floor and one in the loft. (The one in the loft is a 24" iMac, HD display that I use for watching movies downloaded from iTunes.)
And of course, an iPhone..................
And I said all that without a trace of snobbery.
Re: refurbished means “used.”
No, he means “refurbished” with the same warranty as new.
Or it may be that their OS version doesn't support it.
".. but that was a choice that Adobe made.. Universal dragging and dropping is something that the Mac does very well."
That's good to hear, though I prefer what you call the 'option click.' And yes, I know that can be done in Macs now - I use it with the graphic tablet stylus (Wacom, on their Macs and on my PC) and, I'll admit, the function of the option click in the Mac tends to be frustrating (and with limited functionality), but it may just be their Wacom tablets - I'm using the Bamboo, cheaper, but it seems to work better).
"There are a number of Finder replacements including Quicksilver."
There are tons of little explorer replacements like that for Windows - I stay away from them, they're interesting little gimmicks, but who cares? These are not shell replacements. Litestep, for example, replaces explorer.exe with litestep.exe in the boot menu, runs much lighter than explorer.exe and is far more configurable.
"Yes, you can. I can understand that the University might not allow you to do that to their computers, though."
Well that's news. I looked it over and I see they're many limitations, not the least of which is the small number of themes available. There are literally thousands of Stardock Windowblinds themes - and it doesn't matter what version of Windows you run them on. But it's nice to see that the Mac is making it possible for their users to set-up their own workspaces they way they, the users, want it.
"But why would you want to do those things? ... a custom pointer that's a swinging gorilla..."
If that's you're notion of a custom cursor, I don't blame you - I'd be loath to use one too. Cursor FX themes. They're not all good, in fact, only a few are, but the ones that are, are. And very usable, imo.
"You can use Command Left and Right arrow to move to the beginning and ending of a line."
Thanks! Every Mac user I've asked, including my teachers - who were ostensibly supposed to be teaching me how to use the Mac - hadn't been able to answer that. So really, thanks (though it's still less convenient then simply pressing 'home' or 'end').
In the end, I'd say the many things they've done (Mac), such as add support for 'option clicks,' have made the Mac much more usable, but the many quirks still steer me away.
I suppose those quirks are beloved by the Mac user the way the old Porsche's quirks are beloved by the Porsche driver but which, to everyone else, are just quirks.
For me, I've disliked Windows, but disliked the Mac more. Now I continue to dislike Windows and dislike Macs just a little less then before, but can use it if needed.
Thanks for your sincere and considered response, btw.
A small title loan insurance office had just moved to a new building. The manager had been reading some PC magazines for a few weeks, and decided that she knew everything she needed to know about setting up a network of 5 systems and the Internet. She went out to Sams Club and bought 5 computers at $350 each (including 15" monitors), and had the Internet installed on site. Within 4 hours every computer was completely infected with all sorts of malware. When I arrived on the scene, after just one look at one of the computers, and the fact that they had a cable modem and public static IP addresses on each computer, I told her that the only way to guarantee that the computers would be "clean" would be to a) buy a firewall/router and b) that each computer needed to be wiped and had the OS completely reloaded, staring over from scratch. She insisted that I try cleaning her computer, since it had something on it she wanted, so I estimated that it would take at least a 3 hours at $75 an hour to recover her data. And that I'd be happy to show they how to reload their workstations.
She actually decided that it would be cheaper and faster to just give those 5 systems to charity and buy another 5 computers from Sams Club!
Mark
Actually, for channeling air in order to keep the "guts" cool, it's one of the best designed in the industry, on par with HP Proliant Server designs.
All computers are pretty much the same when you look at their components. Some manufacturers choose better components than others. Some manufacturers, like Apple, have very stringent requirements on their components to ensure that they meet certain standards, and will work without the incompatability problems you can see from time to time when putting together your own system.
The simple fact of the matter is that when you're dealing with businesses that need to ensure that their systems are up and running at near "five nines" reliability levels in a corporate environment, you NEVER see PCs or systems built up by the techs. NEVER. It's a disaster waiting to happen.
Mark
Thanks I understand now. It sounds like a serious hunk of book and perfect for the philology inclined.
You will notice that on this thread it was a Windows fanboy who attacked, not an operating system but the people who use it. Let's hit a couple of other things. Hemp is not pot. If hemp is as useful as (and I don't know if it is) cotton, why not use hemp, coconut, kudzu or any other crop, along with cotton, to produce clothing, paper and the like? Do your Mac friends want to legalize pot as a recreational drug? Your comment here doesn't indicate that at all.
Bob Jones and ORU? If they're good college campuses they will have both Macs and PC's, as will their students. One local campus (secular, liberal) I attended was PC ONLY! Couldn't find a Mac anywhere!
I know many wacky, left-wing Mac users. I also know many wacky, left-wing PC users. You have, on this forum, access to many conservative, Christian Mac users. You've agreed with W. Great. Get to know some of us before you make blanket judgements.
Except that it's true for most OEMs. Not long ago Sony offered to ship its computers without all the crapware, but was going to charge IIRC $25 to do it. Public outrage had them pull the extra fee. It's widely known that most OEMs subsidize costs through crapware.
It's worked that way on all OSX Macs from version 0, so they may have locked your Dock which is possible with a limited account.
So really, thanks (though it's still less convenient then simply pressing 'home' or 'end').
'Home' and "end" do what they were originally designed to do: go to the beginning or to the end of a document.
a custom pointer that's a swinging gorilla..."
If that's you're notion of a custom cursor, I don't blame you - I'd be loath to use one too.
Not "my notion", just an example of one I ran across on a client's machine, that while cute, was less than useful. ;^)>
Thanks for your sincere and considered response, btw.
You're entirely welcome.
I've had clients make that decision as well.
I think I would be very happy using a Mac. I support a 100% PC environment at work so here I stay. We had some Macs for a while but back then they didn't play very well with others.
As for hemp it was that he also believed it was a government and clothing industry conspiracy to keep hemp clothing off the markets. If people's clothes NEVER wore out the clothing manufacturers would go out of business and the government would lose tax money. He also had a pony tail.
I have my dual G4 still running at my office. It is 8 years old, I have never had to wipe it clean and reinstall everything like I did with my windows machines. I have thrown out probably 100 computers in the same time frame that were dell, sony, compaq, and hp. My office is now all apple, has been for about two years. Not one instance of having to rebuild and reinstall any computer. The only decent non Apple I have had is my rack full of Compaq Proliant servers. The case on an Apple is crap? What are you smoking? You should see my MacBook Pro...It has been dropped many many times, looks like it was put in a washing machine. It is beat up and ugly now but will outlast any garbage you buy. You sound like George Castanza when he was upset because it was cold and he had shrinkage.
Hey pal, my house is paid for. If you are driving a 1999 Buick you would be a person of suspicion in my neighborhood. I have bought at least 200 computers for my office over the years. All of them except my Compaq Proliant servers were junk that lasted on average 2 years. In contrast, I have an eight year old Mac dual G4 still chugging along performing its’ duties. I bought a brand new XServe about three months ago. Best, most rock solid heavy duty machine I have ever seen, and I have had SUN Sparc’s that were over $25,000. On top of that my entire office is running on iMacs...going on two years now. Not a single issue. My old network support guy said all windows machines needed to be wiped clean and everything reinstalled once a year. My experience was more like every 6 months.
My Denali goes to 60 pretty fast, my Suburban is a little slower but so what, and my Silverado 3500 with a 8.1 litrer and Allison tranny gets probably less than 7 MPG...now that car sucks, does that make me an asshol#?
Amusingly, it’s Windows that’s broken in that respect. Pretty much every OS *but* Windows has always used “Home” to take you to the top of a document or screen (where appropriate), and “End” to take you to the, well, END or bottom of a document or screen.
As someone who started off using then-old UNIX terminals in grade school and had used everything else from a Commodore PET to a NeXT Cube, I find Windows’ use of Home and End to be extremely frustrating when navigating through a long document. Where’s the command to go to the top of a document from deep within it? Alt-Some-Weird-Not-Memorable-Code-Other-Than-Just-Pressing-The -Home-Button?
That said, if you’re on a single-line entry field on a Mac (in anything other than FireFox or other program that doesn’t use the built in input handlers), such as a web browser’s address entry field, you can press the up arrow to go to the start of the line, or the down arrow to go to the end of the line. Simple. Wish Windows had it.
I go to the beginning or end of a sentence much more often then to the beginning or end of the document, so for me, Window's setup is more logical.
Forgot to mention - Windows/Microsoft isn’t even consistent in how the home and end keys work:
Windows Explorer Shortcuts:
END (Display the bottom of the active window)
HOME (Display the top of the active window)
Word Shortcuts:
Start of Line HOME
End of Line END
Start of Document CTRL+HOME
End of Document CTRL+END
Not *real* consistent. And there’s no single line single key shortcut, like on a Mac.
I type a lot and do not find that I navigate to the start or end of a sentence often. Usually, when I do, I’m on a single line field and the up and down arrow keys are much more readily to hand.
That's one of the little things that bugs the *&^% out of me on Windows. On a Mac, if I want to copy a URL from the address bar to paste into an e-mail or AIM, it's a piece of cake -- shift-up-arrow goes to the beginning, shift-down-arrow selects the line, and command-C copies. Windows one-line text fields also don't seem to have a consistent double- and triple-click behavior.
In fairness, there might be an equally simple way to do that in Windows, but it's not as automatic to me.
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