Posted on 05/11/2008 6:32:22 PM PDT by Thorin
Misery loves company.
Because these athiests are Marxists who’s god is the State, and the state is a jealous god.
And 800 years ago they killed half a million for the same reason
Like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and the Kims, the various Popes killed for one reason: maintaining absolute power.
There's your problem, not atheism, or religion.
It's an amazing straw man you set up there. You must be so, well......broadminded......
*rolls eyes*
In one case it is merely insanity; on the other, it is simply an extreme case of "misery-loves-company."
If I know that I was nothing before I was born, I am nothing now, and I will be nothing when I die, how dare anyone else have the hope of a higher fate?
Why should I embrace laws, ethics, morals and even civilization? Who decided it's important anyway?
As for science, it's settled. Just because it can't answer the most fundamental questions of creation doesn't mean we are closed minded, or anything...
I think one of the reasons for the anger is that the “freethinking utopia” has been such a disaster. The collapse of Christianity in Europe was supposed to usher in a new golden age of enlightenment, but instead it’s created an atmosphere where Islam, one of the most primitive religions on earth, is poised to become the dominant force there within a century.
Western atheists in the 19th & 20th centuries never gave Islam much thought because it wasn’t a significant factor in most Western nations. Christianity was the sole enemy as far as they were concerned, and once it was driven from a central role in community life, a new golden age would supposedly arise. Instead, those European nations are filled with secularized drones who merely want to live out the rest of their lives on a nice pension and then die. They don’t give a damn what happens to their nations after they’re gone. Militant atheists have come to realize that Christianity was a necessary ingredient in the success of the West. Knock Christianity out and you don’t get utopia, you get a shallow, empty culture filled with people too pessimistic and hedonistic to reproduce, followed by Islam.
And so there’s an increasing rage among atheists. As Mark Steyn once put it, for secular, socialist nanny states to survive, they need the family values and birth rates of a religious society. Otherwise the ponzi scheme collapses. So having purged Christian values from Europe, the secular elites have had to import fundamentalist Muslims to try to keep the scheme going. It’s frustrating to atheists that their societies are, for all practical purposes, dependent on religious people. So they lash out in rage, the way a spoiled child hates his parents.
Now that is, pardon my candor, a dumb question.
First of all, ignorant people aren't aware that they are ignorant. Point #2: ignorant people have no qualms about making up numbers, or quoting some obscure rant that does exactly that.
So where does that leave us?
How about insisting on documented numbers from historical sources?
If the ranter is claiming that during the official period of the "Inquisition" all executions, wars and other normal regional killings were religiously based, then all bets are off.
I’m almost 58yo, and I the closest I ever came to meeting an atheist (that I know of) was in Hammerfest Norway, and she said she was a pagan. Where are all of them, and how do you get people to say they are?
For atheists, THIS is “all there is”. They have nothing to look forward to or anyone to lean on with power. It’s a ad life for them - but it is THEIR choice.
“It is true that about 500 years ago, Christian fanatics killed about 10,000 people over a 100 year time period (about 100/year) in the name of the Roman Catholic church
And 800 years ago they killed half a million for the same reason
Like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and the Kims, the various Popes killed for one reason: maintaining absolute power.
There’s your problem, not atheism, or religion. “
Correction, as a Christian, and Bible based, don’t label ME a Catholic. Catholics are not Christians. Limit your reply to Catholics since they are the ones that murdered others in the name of Catholicism.
...Or any of the things that they consider immoral.
The thing is; most atheists are living a lifestyle that, if they would admit it, they themselves conciously or subconciously believe is immoral.
I never said it was about religion.
Yeah just write off the Church Jesus Christ Himself Founded... Yeah that Pope benedict XVI looks like a real Zealot on his recent USA visit..
The Catholic Monks of Europe lead the Western Civilization Read a Little History! In New and innovative Agriculture Wineries Mettalurgy Augauducts Education Charity etc..
The benedictine Monks of England had the Most Advanced Mettalurgical Furnaces to start the Industrial age They were stymied by Henry 8th by disbanding Them ... as they did in France later on..
If anything, the constant need of the new atheists to belittle religious belief suggests a defensiveness, a need to reassure themselves that they are right.
Can we say "Teeny tiny gonads?" Of course we can, unless the Religion Moderator smacks us in the teeth.
...and they hate being reminded of it.
“In God We Trust”
The end will have the final say. I happen to believe life has a purpose, and I feel sorry for those who think that this is all there is. I just say a quick prayer for them and move on.
Do you have any idea why you didn't steer clear of this one? Pretty provocative heading, I'd say.
The atheists I know are former Christians who are angry because they didn’t get what they prayed for.
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