[sauropod]

* yawn *

[ClearCase_guy]

Ben Stein is telling us with a straight face that because the Nazis thought it would be a good idea to breed people like people breed animals, the theory of evolution must be wrong....

Stupidest. Summation. Ever.

[allmendream]

The message of this movie was anti-Science. Here Mr. Stein expounds upon his Science = Genocide formulation showing exactly where the message and audience of this propaganda piece are coming from.
Stein: When we just saw that man, I think it was Mr. Myers [i.e. biologist P.Z. Myers], talking about how great scientists were, I was thinking to myself the last time any of my relatives saw scientists telling them what to do they were telling them to go to the showers to get gassed … that was horrifying beyond words, and that’s where science — in my opinion, this is just an opinion — that’s where science leads you.

[MEGoody]

In a parallel universe even crazier than our own, Ben Stein is making a documentary about how the Nazis utilized the controversial theory of gravity to make bombs that fall from the sky to the earth, and so the theory of gravity must be wrong.

:::rolls eyes:::

Maryann, go take your medicine and report back to your rubber room.

[Coyoteman]

It’s apeshit crazy nuttiness right from the opening moments of Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, as imagery of Nazi atrocities and the terrors of life behind the Berlin War are smugly deployed in a demented attempt to editorialize away basic scientific fact.

Didn't Stein write about six years ago, postulating ways to ruin American competitiveness and innovation in the course of this century, that these ways would include:

Destroy the knowledge base on which all of mankind's scientific progress has been built by guaranteeing that such learning is confined to only a few, and spread ignorance and complacency among the many. Watch America lose its scientific and competitive edge to other nations that make a comprehensive knowledge base a rule of the society.

Elevate mysticism, tribalism, shamanism and fundamentalism...to an equal status with technology in the public mind. Make sure that, in order to pay proper (and politically correct) respect to all different ethnic groups in America, you act as if science were on an equal footing with voodoo and history with ethnic fable. (Source)

Looks like Stein has voted for mysticism, tribalism, shamanism and fundamentalism.

[MHalblaub]

Best comment there:
“HITLER WAS A CREATIONIST”
http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm

[Aquinasfan]

I liked the part where Dawkins defends panspermia, and then treats us to a reading from the Book of Dawkins, like it's holy writ or something.

Hold your arms out Richard, it makes it harder for them to throw the net over you.

[Publius6961]

Nazis! It’s all about Nazis. In a parallel universe even crazier than our own, Ben Stein is making a documentary about ...

I love it!
The perverts and their supporters keep reviwing a different movie than the one I saw. The Nazi reference was incidental, factual and less than 5% of the entire film.

The main subject, for normal viewers, is the "McCarthyist" behavior of academia against anyone who dares to ask questions they can't answer.

In a nutshell, that is the subject of the movie!

[dmz]

OK. This movie is about how the scientific establishment has ‘mccarthy’d’ those who do not follow the party (evolution) line. This is something its supporters say routinely, that it really isn’t about knocking down the ToE, or trying to bolster support for ID, it’s about how the scientific establishment treats its renegades.

Do I have that right?

If that is correct, can anyone explain the foray into Nazis and Eugenics and the attempt at linking the two with Darwin? How does that help making the point of the movie?

[Amendment10]

The recent threads attacking Ben Stein's Expelled movie are completely overlooking that Mr. Stein's concern for free speech is just the tip of the iceberg concerning the major problem of renegade justices who are ignoring 10th A.-protected state powers, stifling free religious speech

From a related thread...In 1987, The Supreme Court of the United States ruled that teaching creationism in public schools violated the separation of church and state in Edwards vs. Aquilard.

If anybody wants to see the USSC's bogus separation of church and state disappear before their eyes, a politically correct perversion of our constitutional religious freedoms that was wrongly legislated from the bench when the Court decided Cantwell v. Connecticut in 1940, then please read the following post. Note that while the post concerns a 10 Commandments issue it is also applicable to this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1992174/posts?page=22#22

The bottom line, as mentioned in the referenced post, is that the people need to reconnect with the Founder's division of federal and state powers, particularly where the wrongly ignored 10th A. power of the states to address religious issues is concerned, power now limited by the honest interpretation of the 14th Amendment. The people then need to get in the faces of renegade justices and do a major spring cleaning where USSC respect for our religious freedoms is concerned. President Lincoln put it this way.

"We the People are the rightful master of both congress and the courts - not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." --Abraham Lincoln (Political debates between Lincoln and Douglas), 1858.