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1 posted on 05/01/2008 9:58:37 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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2 posted on 05/01/2008 9:59:46 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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Do you have an endless supply of this kind of nonsense, or dare we hope that you will run dry sometime soon?


3 posted on 05/01/2008 10:05:15 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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If the principles of science these things are based on were just "made up," they would not work—there would be no such thing as lasers, for example.

Well, that's wrong, dammit!

The matter is settled. Haven't you read the memo yet?

9 posted on 05/01/2008 11:10:42 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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I disagree with a lot there. But I’ll just go with psychiatry since that affects me most directly.

There may be a lot of faddism and disease of the month in psychiatry. However, after struggling through years, in which I had repeatedly been fired or “laid off’ from various jobs in my 20s, never lasting more than two and a half years in any of them, I was diagnosed with attention deficit disorder and started taking medicine for it.

Shortly after that, I started a new job, which I have now held for almost ten years. I found the patience to become a writer, as a hobby, if not for income. I found that I could be angry without a need to physically demonstrate it.

I am not saying this is the solution for everyone. If you want to say that ADD/ADHD is over-diagnosed, particularly in children, you won’t get any argument with me. But that just means there are bad psychiatrists, not that psychiatry is a fraud.

Because of psychiatry and medication, my life went from spiraling in towards what was, frankly, a suicidal course into one where I’m a productive member of society. By “productive,” I do not mean an emotionless, docile cog. I doubt that anyone who posts to sites like this can be considered docile.

Maybe it’s coincidence. Maybe it’s psychosomatic. Whatever the case, my life objectively improved after I started taking psychiatric medication. If that’ gullibility, then thank God I’m gullible.


10 posted on 05/01/2008 11:24:42 AM PDT by onewhowatches
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To: Hank Kerchief

read later


11 posted on 05/01/2008 11:39:42 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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“Most scientists today are not religious themselves” Hank Kerchief

Do you have a source for that assertion. Most Scientists in the U.S. are people of faith (roughly 2/3). This was from a survey of Scientists who are faculty members at “elite Universities”. I imagine (based entirely upon personal experience and the known bias of University faculty) the % among working Scientists is even higher.

http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/050811_scientists_god.html

16 posted on 05/01/2008 12:12:51 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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Don’t agree with every bit of it, but it sure is spot on in many regards!

Especially the part of the insanely insecure that they find it necessary to hijack the courts to get their way, stomping and screaming all the way that God has no place in: science class, courts, government and anything else they don’t want to be inconvenienced with.

Churches? Well, that’s OK, for now.

Magnanimous of them.


22 posted on 05/01/2008 1:50:36 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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The purpose of science is to discover the principles by which physical reality can be understood. Everything from Ohm's law to the periodic table is knowledge by which the behavior of things can be predicted with absolute certainty within limits of uncertainty.

There. Fixed it for you. You should know by now that science is a tentative business and that is does not deal in absolute certainty. That, to the discomfort of philosophers, does not exists in science.

23 posted on 05/01/2008 1:54:55 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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I couldn't read this article without hearing Arte Johnson in my head: "Veerrry interesting. But dumb!"
26 posted on 05/01/2008 2:02:43 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Hank Kerchief

The author is full of Shinola.


40 posted on 05/02/2008 1:59:15 AM PDT by Rudder ("There is only one chief. Obey him." [Rush Limbaugh, April 30, 2008])
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To: Hank Kerchief

“The Age of Gullibility”

A decent bit of reading, albeit on economics:

The Adventures of Jonathan Gullible: A Free Market Odyssey
by Ken Schoolland
http://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Jonathan-Gullible-Market-Odyssey/dp/817188444X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1209845344&sr=1-1


49 posted on 05/03/2008 1:13:41 PM PDT by VOA
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