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Eco-Crap: Paper versus reusable plates/cups???
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Posted on 04/25/2008 2:37:31 PM PDT by agooga

Does anyone have a link, example or opinion about the "eco costs" associated with eating off of paper plates versus porcelain ones in the work place?

Pretty fine-tuned debate, I know, but a co-worker was making a big point today of not eating lunch at work off the provided paper plates. I mentioned that it might actually be less "damaging" to the environment not to have everyone standing in line at the sink with the hot water running washing their plates after lunch.

She was not buying it, but hell, I don't know if I was either. Your thoughts?


TOPICS: Food; Miscellaneous; Society; Weird Stuff
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To: MarineBrat
Luxury!

Vintage John Cleese, Monty Feldman, Graham Chapman, Tim Brooke-Taylor skit. A must-see for any Monty Python fan.

21 posted on 04/25/2008 3:42:25 PM PDT by Melpomene
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To: cubreporter

I use real dishes also. Never use paper plates. Like you, I love my real dishes and flatware and take pride in a nice table setting. I know people who invite us over for a nice sit-down dinner and guess what? They’re using paper plates! Paper plates have their uses, no doubt, but I would NEVER serve my guests with paper plates for a decent sit-down dinner. Neither my mother nor grandmothers ever used paper plates. Guess it was just the way I was brought up. (I also rinse everything well in cold water before loading the dishwasher, then use the energy efficient setting.) People who use real dishes unite!!


22 posted on 04/25/2008 4:01:57 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: MarineBrat

Oh, God, you’re funny!! LOL!!


23 posted on 04/25/2008 4:03:40 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I’m holding out for explosive plates.


24 posted on 04/25/2008 4:06:39 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Don't trust anyone who can't take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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To: agooga
But... but... if you eliminate paper plates, you'd put the wicker paper plate holder people out of work!

-PJ

25 posted on 04/25/2008 4:16:24 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: agooga

Ask her if she uses disposable feminine hygiene products, or does she recycle rags like they used to do in the old days.


26 posted on 04/25/2008 4:55:16 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: FReepaholic

Be careful FReepaholic. Nothing is more dangerous than coming betweening a hotflashing woman and her source of cooling. Nothing. They must be a very forgiving bunch...they let you live.


27 posted on 04/25/2008 5:00:48 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I could never 'Stay Sweet' I am a bitter Pennsylvanian)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
LOL.

I'm a two-time battle-scarred veteran of the Spouse Wars. I'm not afraid.

:-)

28 posted on 04/25/2008 5:18:17 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Me no bottom man. Me top man.)
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To: agooga

It’s like the paper-versus-plastic shopping bag dilemma: Kill a tree or strangle a fish? Personally, I don’t care...


29 posted on 04/25/2008 7:40:54 PM PDT by Hyzenthlay (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Alouette
I remember the “disposable diapers” vs. “washable diapers” argument 30 years ago. I used a diaper service for my older kids. I was very sad the “disposables” won that argument.

We did this with our first daughter, using washable diapers (except we washed our own instead of a service), and she constantly had skin rashes and was sick a lot (yes, we even switched to different brands of detergent to figure out if that was the problem), and soon as we switched to disposable...no problems. All of the kids have used disposable since. Yeah, I know, it's not great, but I was sick of the diarrhea thing.
30 posted on 04/26/2008 7:47:42 AM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: fishergirl

No our mothers nor our grandmothers would ever have a sit down dinner and use paper plates. They had manners and knew etiquette. Yes, for a hot dog or sandwich for lunch or hoagies at night...paper plates are great. However, to sit anyone down to an actual dinner on paper plates is ludicrous.

I wonder why so many people register at places for gifts when half the time they don’t use the items? I’m like you. I love dishes and have many sets. I have one set of china. The rest are hand made pottery and all different. Sometimes when I used to have a buffet I would use ALL my dishes so that while everyone was standing in line for their food they could laugh and discuss the dishes each one of them had. It was a good conversation for everyone. Sometimes the guests would switch because someone wanted someone else’s plate. It was fun.

If we break one so be it. They are not expensive but they are pretty, charming, quaint and colorful. I would never insult my dinner guests by serving them on paper plates. Besides...after dinner it’s fun for everyone to clear the table and hang out in the kitchen washing and drying the dishes. Good conversation, good friends (both men and women) all enjoying glasses of wine or their fav beverage all the while helping with the clean up so we can get out the dessert dishes and begin again.

It boils down to Pride. It’s taking pride in what you do and how you do it. Making guests feel welcome. There is no better compliment than to have someone tell you how warm and inviting our home was and how comfortable and at home they felt while there.

That’s part of how I was raised too and I love every minute of it. Glad you do too and am sure there are more out there that feel the same.

It’s our home. If you can’t use and serve your family with your best stuff...then why have it? Love it and use it. That’s what it is there for.


31 posted on 04/26/2008 9:15:27 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: agooga

My thoughts? Use whichever you like better.


32 posted on 04/26/2008 2:38:13 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: agooga

Has nobody considered the amount of water that is utilized in the production of paper pulp (i.e. paper plates, paper towels, etc). The amount of water used to wash a dish doesn’t come close to the amount used to create paper products. Not to mention when a paper plate, for example, is sitting in a dump with tons of other non-biodegradable products, it certainly does not biodegrade quickly, by any means.


33 posted on 08/30/2011 6:19:02 PM PDT by wittlun
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To: wittlun

Well, this came back from the foggy recesses of the past! Have a look at this:
http://www.stanfordalumni.org/news/magazine/sage/201101/paperplates/nittygritty.html
And recall that my office doesn’t have a dishwasher which would certainly be a more efficient way of cleaning the dishes than to have 30 or so highly paid employees standing in line to wash their plates at the sink— while the hot water is running for probably 20 minutes or so.

Not every scenario is the same— this was the one I was reacting to as my co-worker was bleating that we shouldn’t be using paper plates, but should rather be cleaning ceramic dinnerware on company time and expense with hot water running, etc.


34 posted on 09/01/2011 12:19:57 PM PDT by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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