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To: bray

“The fact that a scientist can’t even express or think about the earth being created by intellegence gives so called science a black eye.”

Science is a system of thinking which says that all processes in nature can be understood without reference to supernatural forces. Anyone can imagine the earth being created by a god, but that sort of thinking is not scientific by definition.


8 posted on 04/20/2008 11:36:11 AM PDT by onguard
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To: onguard

By who’s definition, a bunch of Darwinists?? So you think if any scientist who is seeing evidence pointing to Intellegent Design he should be fired.

Glad you are against freedom of thought in academia.

Pray for W and Our Troops


9 posted on 04/20/2008 1:55:55 PM PDT by bray (Go InSain)
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To: onguard

“One man’s “magic” is another man’s engineering. “Supernatural” is a null word.” — Robert A. Heinlein


10 posted on 04/20/2008 3:39:57 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: onguard
Science is a system of thinking which says that all processes in nature can be understood without reference to supernatural forces. Anyone can imagine the earth being created by a god, but that sort of thinking is not scientific by definition.

This definition would preclude the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, and even evolutionist speculation.

The borderline between empiricism (or "science") and philosophy is blurry. Of great importance in this definitional debate is the fact that science presupposes metaphysical truths that, historically, derived from Christianity. Such truths include the idea that we can trust the evidence of our senses, that physical laws apply throughout the universe, and that the universe began from nothing. Christianity upholds these pre-scientific truths, while Modernism has abandoned them. The result is the intellectual disease of decontructionism/postmodernism.

13 posted on 04/21/2008 6:23:48 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: onguard

>>Science is a system of thinking which says that all processes in nature can be understood without reference to supernatural forces. Anyone can imagine the earth being created by a god, but that sort of thinking is not scientific by definition.<<

For a second, I’ll say I agree with that. But isn’t most thinking done even by scientists “unscientific”? I personally believe that ALL humans are emotional beings and, in fact, all decisions are, at their root, emotional ones.

One can have unscientific thoughts, even about the very object of his experiments, and still carry out very real and useful science. There really need not be any science “thought police”.

It is obvious that these folk actually FEAR the ID and creationist folks.


22 posted on 04/21/2008 12:54:47 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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