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To: Bommer
God always was and always will be.

So you believe.

Then where did the heavier element come from? A heavier one and on it goes. It came from something. Even if you subscribe to the "Big Bang" Theory where did the matter come from? It was always there? Why can that be believed but the existance of God cannot?

It's called nuclear fusion baby! A process that we utilize each and every single day. It produces much of the energy used by plant life, and therefore a significant quantity of the energy used by animal life (humans included). As for the big bang theory, when we start getting into things like dark matter and dark energy, well...it gets complicated. But because of the nature of the universe we can't see to the big bang (only the background radiation left over from it) or through the big bang, so there's no way of knowing when/how it happened or what existed before.

You know the history of a Theory? A theory is unproven fact. Its conjecture based on slim evidence, which is why its the Theory of Evolution not the Fact of Evolution. So you know alot about conjecture. God has revealed himself through numberous men and through his son Jesus Christ. There are more books written on Christ alone then the Big Bang and Evolution put together. Since you do not know Christ, you cannot possibly know more than I!

A theory is what best fits the facts as currently known. It's not conjecture based on slim evidence (that would be a hypothesis, but I wouldn't use the word conjecture). I'd like to see those numbers if you please. I would argue that the subject is the same, whether you're talking God or a non-theistic view of the creation of the universe. And the last sentence is pure hubris, nothing more.

Same ones that invented Global Warming? What truly do they Not a slam against you, but true enlightenment comes from the word of God.

Global warming, and anthropogenic global warming are two different animals. The world warms and cools naturally, we have little to no discernible affect on it. As far as enlightenment, God has stopped creating, man will continue to for the foreseeable future.

113 posted on 04/17/2008 3:11:14 PM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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To: AntiKev
It's called nuclear fusion baby!

Which came from????? A process that we utilize each and every single day. It produces much of the energy used by plant life, and therefore a significant quantity of the energy used by animal life (humans included).

Oh yeah now I can see how this all accidentally just happened to come together. Happens all the time. Hey by the way, with the exception of the Reeses Peanut Butter Cup, can you tell me the last time something tremendous just happen to come together? I mean with the randomness of atoms that appear from no where, things must be being created (without mans intervention) that are new and astonishing and only a few years old. Name 1?

As for the big bang theory, when we start getting into things like dark matter and dark energy, well...it gets complicated. But because of the nature of the universe we can't see to the big bang (only the background radiation left over from it) or through the big bang, so there's no way of knowing when/how it happened or what existed before.

So you believe in something you can't see, but can't believe in God? OK

A theory is what best fits the facts as currently known. It's not conjecture based on slim evidence (that would be a hypothesis, but I wouldn't use the word conjecture). I'd like to see those numbers if you please. I would argue that the subject is the same, whether you're talking God or a non-theistic view of the creation of the universe. And the last sentence is pure hubris, nothing more.

Oh OK. Give me a fact on the theory of Evolution. The last subject is pure hubris, because you cannot speak authoritatively of it as I can, just like I cannot speak of the love you have for your spouse as you can.

Global warming, and anthropogenic global warming are two different animals. The world warms and cools naturally, we have little to no discernible affect on it. As far as enlightenment, God has stopped creating, man will continue to for the foreseeable future.

I never said anthropogenic global warming and thats not what Scientist are agreeing upon. Its Global Warming and they say its caused by man, with no facts, only theories of what will happen in a computer model in 25 of 50 or 100 years. Water vapor isn't even figured in their "Theory". Scientists cannot even tell you how much condensation is created in 1 year, they just don't know. But its the same people who will tell us that the world is doomed in 25 or so years, yet cannot predict the weather for next Thursday.

This is a rather pointless argument since yours is a faith in man and mine is a faith in God. You'll go your way and I'll go mine from the looks of it. Neither converted, neither convinced. But mine has and will stand the test of time. Yours will crumble away.

115 posted on 04/17/2008 3:39:36 PM PDT by Bommer (Hmmm who to vote for? A Far leftist? A Radical Leftist? Or a Republican that enjoys being a Leftist?)
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