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Company claims to sell Mac clone for $399
Ars technica ^ | April 14, 2008 | Charles Jade

Posted on 04/14/2008 8:45:24 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts

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Thanks to Bloody Sam Roberts for the Heads up on this... PING!


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21 posted on 04/14/2008 11:40:01 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

Yup. Looks like someone ate a Ives-designed iTorpedo from Apple legal.


22 posted on 04/14/2008 11:49:10 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
No. It's Hollywood in general. Take a closer look and you'll see Apple computer logos everywhere. If it's not an Apple, rarely will you see a logo of any other manufacturer.

24 used Mac's inside of "CTU". I've seen them on a number of shows and movies. And you are right, Mac's are huge with creative folks. For photo's and video production, Mac is typically the weapon of choice.

23 posted on 04/14/2008 12:02:24 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I like when they don’t have permission to show the logo. The set designers get pretty creative in ways to block the logo from the shot. It is amazing how often in movies someone opens a laptop on a table with something that just happens to go as high as the logo and be just as wide.


24 posted on 04/14/2008 12:05:06 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Just for comparison, a mac Mini fully spec’d out:

2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB memory
160GB hard drive (largest you can get - it’s a 2.5”)

is $949. The case is 1/10th the size.


25 posted on 04/14/2008 12:06:44 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
It's Hollywood in general. Take a closer look and you'll see Apple computer logos everywhere.

Product placement is a big advertising business, and Apple uses it extensively.

26 posted on 04/14/2008 12:34:47 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Jonah Johansen

On my intel based MacBookPro I run a program called Parallels. It allows me to run the mac OS and Windows XP at the same time. I understand that I can lso run Linux if I want but since I have no use for it I’ve never looked into it. I a few pieces of software that require XP to run otherwise I’d never would’ve worried about it.


27 posted on 04/14/2008 12:35:14 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Swordmaker
Thanks to Bloody Sam Roberts for the Heads up on this

H U H !

< /noseouttajoint >

28 posted on 04/14/2008 12:54:27 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Waverunner

Its cause most all his movies are the FUTURE !!

= D


29 posted on 04/14/2008 2:58:50 PM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; Swordmaker
Personal technology enthusiasts yearning for the Mac Experience without the Apple Tax—that huge markup that Mac users pay for off-the-shelf PC hardware with OS X

That right there was enough to discredit this story...

30 posted on 04/14/2008 3:23:10 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: Jonah Johansen
Macs now use the same Intel processors, Memory, graphics boards, drives, USB devices and monitors the Windows users use how is the Mac hardware different?

Most of the components are the same. Apple chooses good components and packages them better than most PC builders. And I don't just mean pretty boxes -- cooling and accessibility for upgrades are stellar on tower Macs, and they have a lot of small touches that add up to improved usability. If you've ever compared a Sony Vaio to a low-end PC, you know what I'm talking about.

Leopard is a Unix variant

Sort of. It runs on a Unix (BSD) kernel. Apple combined elements of BSD and other Unixes into an open-source OS it calls Darwin. Then it added layers of user interface, APIs and such that aren't open source to create OS X.

like Linux?

Linux is not a Unix variant. Linux is a home-grown alternative to Unix; once upon a time, calling something a Unix meant an expensive and annoying process of getting it certified by Bell Labs. Who owns the IP behind Unix is pretty much a mess, as the whole SCO debacle illustrates.

Could I repartition a Mac hard drive and run a version of Linux?

Yes. As others have mentioned, you can boot to it or run it in a virtual machine.

or repartition a Windows hard drive and run Leopard? I mean at least theoretically, assuming there wasn't some code that either had the hardware check tho op sys or the op sys check the hardware.

Not without hacking OS X and violating the EULA. And I think there is some kind of hardware check, but I don't know the details.

Is it a question of the Mac having a different BIOS or chip set?

That's certainly part of the equation.

Also, setting aside the question of whether MACs basic applications are superior, are the pros/advantages of Leopard mostly related to its UNIX base

In part. It also has what many (including me) consider to be the best user interface on a desktop computer. And it's not that easy to set aside the basic applications, because part of the appeal of the Mac is how smoothly integrated the hardware, the OS and the apps are.

and thus Linux would share those advantages or does it have distinct advantages over the best Linux distributions?

Linux isn't nearly as easy to set up right out of the box, and the user interface is clunky by comparison. XWindows doesn't come close. Some companies like gOS have put a more appealing face on Linux, but it still doesn't have the fit and finish of Mac OS.

31 posted on 04/14/2008 4:52:16 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: goldstategop
Apple will shut this "clone" company down. Its infringement on Apple's trademark, patents and copyrights. Its an unlicensed third party attempt to make money off Apple

Agreed. I don't think Apple will crack down on the little guys and little sites hacking OS X to run on non-Apple hardware; the more people use a sort-of, kind-of Mac, the more interested they're likely to become in a no-compromises version. At least that's true of hobbyists who go in with both eyes open and know that they're applying a kludge and can expect no support.

Folks buying a turnkey Mac "clone," on the other hand, are more likely to think that it's actually a Mac, and when it isn't stable or upgradeable, more likely to be turned off by the Mac altogether.

All that aside, I know that in some areas of intellectual property, you can lose your IP rights if you don't make a good faith effort to enforce them. I don't know if the courts have ever applied that to a EULA, but it's possible that failing to enforce it here would be a first step to it being considered unenforceable later.

32 posted on 04/14/2008 5:13:01 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: chris_bdba
On my intel based MacBookPro I run a program called Parallels. It allows me to run the mac OS and Windows XP at the same time. I understand that I can lso run Linux if I want but since I have no use for it I’ve never looked into it.

Ditto to all of the above on my Mini. i haven't run across anything Windows-only for a while; all I use Parallels for is checking Web pages in Windows browsers.

33 posted on 04/14/2008 6:07:23 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
MacPro?
This is closer to a Mac Mini on steroids.
Of course, I have wanted to see a mid-rance dual or Quad core Mac Desktop for a while.
34 posted on 04/14/2008 7:18:11 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no god but G_d and Moses is his Prophet.)
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To: martin_fierro

Popular Science (the “robot soldier” cover) this month refers to the use of the ASUS EE (that model you told me about last year) as a Mac OS clone. There’s a few websites listed. I do not, alas, have the copy I was reading here at, uh, work. ;’)


35 posted on 04/14/2008 7:46:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv
Popular Science (the “robot soldier” cover) this month refers to the use of the ASUS EE (that model you told me about last year) as a Mac OS clone.

Ehh, I wouldn't go that far.

 

It's nice and light and portable -- like a Macbook Air -- and inexpensive -- like a Mac Mini. It's got great wireless internet reception.

But  the user interface is nowhere near as fancy as the Mac's.

36 posted on 04/14/2008 8:21:20 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

It ships with Linux, buuuuuut:
http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/11/12654/

this is also eee related:
http://www.popsci.com/article/2007-12/big-os-small-pc
http://www.popsci.com/article/2007-12/hacking-your-eee-pc

unrelated:
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8580


37 posted on 04/14/2008 10:24:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: Waverunner
I know a guy that sold MAC’s to a Scientology site. The site that he was a rep for was exclusively MAC. He also had two very cute young German guides, escorts to help him while he was at their site. One day they asked him about if he wanted to know more about Scientology. He told them that he was a Seventh Day Adventist. He had to open his own doors and carry his own stuff from then on.
38 posted on 04/14/2008 10:37:29 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
And now for the rest of the Story....

Looks like they were down but now they're back up with a renamed product... Instead of OpenMac it's now the Open Computer...

39 posted on 04/14/2008 11:21:26 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: martin_fierro
< /noseouttajoint >

Sorry, Martin, but I found the thread before I found your note to me... so I credited Bloody Sam for posting it...

Kudos also to Martin_Fierro for a ping about the thread...

40 posted on 04/14/2008 11:25:42 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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