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To: gogeo

Yes I do agree that Canada and Mexico are defintely not the same thing at all. Just a lot of things I read and see always seem to have some racial undertone. Putting up a giant wall on our southern boarder seems a little extreme to me. It could end up being a Berlin Wall look a like. But couldn’t that money used on the be put towards other domestic problems? Like toward our schools maybe?


177 posted on 04/08/2008 1:23:32 PM PDT by njweave
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To: njweave
It could end up being a Berlin Wall look a like

What was the purpose of the Berlin Wall?

181 posted on 04/08/2008 1:29:39 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: njweave
It could end up being a Berlin Wall look a like.

The Berlin Wall had the exact opposite purpose- it kept citizen in, like a prison. A border fence would be similar to the door on your house- a way for you to choose who you invite into your home and under what circumstances.

184 posted on 04/08/2008 1:34:44 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: njweave
It could end up being a Berlin Wall look a like.

The Berlin Wall was designed to keep an enslaved people in. Our border fence is to keep unwelcome visitors out -- just like to lock on your door.

But couldn’t that money used on the be put towards other domestic problems? Like toward our schools maybe?

The problem with our schools is too much money. I'm old enough to have been a student in public schools before the Federal government give on red cent to public education. Most public schools, especially big city schools were pretty damn good institutions then. They answered to local demands and especially the parents. Once Uncle Sam stuck his big fat nose in, public education began to deteriorate. It became a bloated bureaucracy where educating the students is a very low priority.

More money will only make it worse.

187 posted on 04/08/2008 1:40:51 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: njweave
Yes I do agree that Canada and Mexico are defintely not the same thing at all. Just a lot of things I read and see always seem to have some racial undertone...

Well...have you ever seen the issues I listed addressed in any reporting, or has this reporting been some variant of poor immigrants/racist conservatives?

Putting up a giant wall on our southern boarder seems a little extreme to me. It could end up being a Berlin Wall look a like...

It is extreme...the question is whether it's needed.

The difference between a southern wall and the Berlin Wall, of course, is that the Berlin Wall, while described as keeping invaders out, was actually used to keep East Germans in. A southern wall, of course, would be used to keep people out.

But couldn’t that money used on the be put towards other domestic problems? Like toward our schools maybe?

Money is fungible, which means that money not used somewhere can, by definition, be used elsewhere.

If your question is should it be, what do you think, and why?

The willingness to engage on questions like this is what makes a conservative.

188 posted on 04/08/2008 1:46:02 PM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: njweave
But couldn't that money used on the be put towards other domestic problems? Like toward our schools maybe?

Here is a little challenge for you. Go research how much tax dollars are allocated per child, per day, for public school education. Compare that figure to all other first-world nations, such as Japan. (hint, the US spends far more per student on education than other countries that are outperforming her.) Remember the old definition of insanity- doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We are always putting more and more money in the educational system, yet, it is getting worse and worse. What does that tell you about where the problem or solution may be? How is it that private schools that spend a fraction of what public schools do, constantly out perform public schools academically?

189 posted on 04/08/2008 1:46:18 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: njweave
Putting up a giant wall on our southern boarder seems a little extreme to me.

You are correct, it is extreme. The reason it is necessary is because our representatives in Washington pay only lip service to border enforcement, and frankly we don't believe them any longer. The fence (if it is ever finished) will be a visible and concrete sign of our commitment to border enforcement.

As to why border enforcement is necessary (and leaving out the national security aspect)...illegal immigrants are a drain on our economy. They depress wages while absorbing taxpayer funded resources, for example health care and education.

192 posted on 04/08/2008 2:02:26 PM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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